Sunday, October 04, 2020

In which the pond has a relaxing Sunday with the grand Polonial inquisitor and IPA shill Dame Slap ...

 

 
 
What a relief to turn to prattling Polonius for a little light Catholic comedy relief as a Sunday meditation. All that lengthy talk of the Donald and the virus and karma and irony and folly yesterday unsettled the pond, when what was needed was to burn a few liberal secularists at the stake, like they did in the good old days ...

Good old Polonius is always up for a burning, especially when the heretics can be found on the ABC. Polonius spends most of his time listening to the ABC, like a Torquemada-loving grand Inquisitor who's got a little list for the Inquisition (or even the Islamic religious thought police), always wanting to sniff out heresy like a pig hunting for truffles ...


 
 
Now this is a clever piece of pedantic distraction by the Grand Inquisitor. In common parlance, Barrett is indeed the Catholic church's preferred choice for the Supreme Court. They've been slobbering at the mouth in a most unseemly way at the prospect of their preferred candidate, their pick, putting an end to abortion, and perhaps overturning gay marriage and gay rights while she's at it ... and it's a two way street in terms of such likes, because Barrett is a most devout fundamentalist Catholic...

Of course you won't find Polonius rabbiting on about the deeply weird fundamentalism of People of Praise, what with him being something of a fundamentalist himself, but still, a reminder ...

The group has roughly 1,800 adult members nationwide, with branches and schools in 22 cities across the United States, Canada and the Caribbean. All members are encouraged to continue to attend church at their own parishes.
After a period of religious study and instruction that lasts from three to six years, people involved in People of Praise can choose to make a lifelong covenant pledging love and service to fellow community members and to God, which includes tithing at least 5% of their gross income to support the group’s activities and charitable initiatives, according to a statement on the group’s website.
People of Praise’s more than 1,500-word covenant, a copy of which was reviewed by the AP, includes a passage where members promise to follow the teachings and instructions of the group’s pastors, teachers and evangelists.
“We agree to obey the direction of the Holy Spirit manifested in and through these ministries in full harmony with the church,” the covenant says.
It’s unclear whether Barrett took the covenant. But members of the organization and descriptions of its hierarchy show that members almost invariably join the covenant after three to six years of religious study or they leave, so it would be very unusual for Barrett to continue to be involved for so many years without having done so.
A 2006 article in the group’s magazine includes a photo of her attending a People of Praise Leaders’ Conference for Women. The magazine also includes regular notices when members are “released from the covenant” and leave the group. The AP’s review found no such notice of Barrett’s or her husband’s departure. (More at AP here).


But back to Polonius, who can't wait to see Barrett get a go at the wicked, heretical secularists ...


 
 
Born again? Of course Polonius, with his almost infinite humour, jests, because very few secularists report hearing imaginary friends whispering into their ears that they are cleansed and born again. 

Jesting aside, the pond found itself a little jaded and worn out by Polonius's relentless bigotry when it comes to harmless secularists and ex-Catholics who decided that Catholicism wasn't for them, especially if it meant keeping the company of loons like the onion muncher and Polonius.

So the pond decided to cheat, and headed off to Jill Filipovic at the Graudian here ...

 


Well yes, and so on and so forth, and you'll have to head off to the Graudian for the hot links ...but speaking, as we were of a reactionary brand of conservatism, back to reactionary Polonius ...


 
 
Actually the truth is that Polonius, in classic Jesuitical fashion, is a bald-faced dissembler, and quite possibly a liar. The US has never been able to work out what belongs to Caesar and what to God, whichever God that might be, and this is just the latest example of the issue in play ...
 
 
 

 
Oh okay, maybe it's confusing for some. What the fuck is that bloody book and what the heck is it banging on about? Still it might win a few votes ...
 
The bromancer memorably suggested that an attack on Barrett was an attempt to ban the gospel, which is about as confusing and as conflationary as you can get, suggesting that the reptiles down under also have the same problem... 
 
Again to borrow from Filipovic, because the pond can't be bothered arguing ...
 
Liberals generally want a robust separation of church and state, where people are free to practice their own religions without interference or discrimination, but are not free to impose their religion on anyone else, or use their religious views as a pretext to violate the law or harm others. Many conservatives insist that the United States is a Christian country (or, in the more updated jargon, a “Judeo-Christian” country), that Christianity should in fact dictate political and legal decisions, and that religious freedom means the freedom to discriminate and violate generally applicable laws as long as you have a religious justification.
Amy Coney Barrett has made clear that she believes abortion is morally wrong. When she has ruled on abortion-related cases, she has ruled to restrict abortion access. She has made clear that she does not adhere to a basic ethos of gender equality, that men and women should have equal rights, opportunities, authority, and power; she instead is a voluntarily member of an organization that formally opposes gender equality, and has signaled her view that men and women are “complementary” – men in charge as leaders, women submitting to their authority.
It’s entirely reasonable for people who are concerned about gender equality to ask how that view would shape Barrett’s jurisprudence, much the same way we know that Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s commitment to gender equality shaped her time on the court. What will Barrett’s apparent view that women have particular gender-defined roles (being maternal, having and raising children, submitting to their husbands) mean for, say, a pregnancy discrimination case? Or a gender discrimination case more generally? Can gender discrimination as a concept even exist if the starting view is that men and women are fundamentally different and should occupy fundamentally different roles?
These are real questions raised not by Barrett’s Catholic faith generally, but by her statements, associations, and actions specifically.

 
In short, the Sydney Anglicans would love this complimentary woman.
 
But belonging, as he does, to a cult, Polonius can't see any harm in another, deeply fundamentalist and reactionary, member of his cult being given enormous powers, because up against the power that Barrett will get to wield, the ABC seem like a harmless exercise in basket-weaving ...
 
And so to Dame Slap, who provides the pond's ballast for the day, crushed stones of the kind they seem to drop on the inner west rail lines at least once a week so that Sydney-siders can revert to City Bus ...
 
But at least there's a bonus to the ballast - sometimes the reptile editors show a wicked sense of humour, or at least a passing connection with irony ... 


 

Who thought of juxtaposing that thugby league story with Dame Slap pretending to be an old-school feminist of the Reddy roar kind? It was too rich, too much for the pond to take ...


 
 
Even better was Dame Slap's attempted slap at whiners, when Dame Slap herself is routinely the Queen of the Whiners. She usually has a litany of whines, which she ticks off in assorted columns. 
 
Many of them these days are IPA whines, but Dame Slap also has her own preferences ... anything to avoid scribbling about her devotion to the pussy-grabbing Donald in days gone past ... and so today she must whine at some length about uppity women wanting to get ahead in the law ...


 
 
Um, could it perhaps be that women are under-represented as barristers, and so under-represented when it comes to choices and selection?

For some reason the pond was reminded of a cartoon it's already run, but why not run again?
 
 

 
 

For some peculiar reason, the pond got confused, and thought of Dame Slap as ACB ... she's certainly no RBG, and what a pity that RGB, whom Dame Slap purported to like for a nanosecond, isn't around to tear shreds off Dame Slap's wonky arguments ...



 

The pond cannot begin to enumerate the many incompetent men in positions of power it has encountered during its working life. But let's not get personal, let's take the lizard Oz as an example. It has many incompetent men employed as scribblers, but the number of incompetent women at work in the Catholic Boys' Daily is small by comparison. Yes, there's the singularly incompetent Dame Slap, and every so often the incompetent Angelic one turns up, and then there's the incompetent recovering, reformed feminist, the Oreo, but couldn't the reptiles find more incompetent women, equal to the task of matching the many incompetent men in its stable?


 

Of course the whole point is not to tick a diversity box when it comes to skill, the point is to make sure that minorities of all kinds are not disadvantaged when it comes to acquiring skills. Then if they get skilled up enough, who knows what they might do or what they might accomplish. Why some might even be hired to scribble fantasies of the Dame Slap kind for the lizard Oz ... (well not everyone can aspire to peak skill sets, sometimes we have to settle for moronic climate science denialism of the Dame Slap kind).


 

Let us hope that the day never comes when people are judged by their ability to indulge in climate science denialism, don the pussy-grabber's MAGA cap and act as a shill and a front for the IPA ... because if that were to happen, Dame Slap would be out of a job, and it might be possible to find a sneering liberal secularist scribbling away gaily for the lizard Oz ...

It'll never happen of course, not while the rag remains a front as the Catholic Boys' Daily, a church incidentally that routinely judges people by their chromosomes ...

And so to end with an apology. The pond has been very light on cartoons this day, so why not catch up with a few recent Wilcox outings, to remind the pond there's more to life than Polonius's chromosome -laden ramblings and Dame Slap's faux IPA feminism ... and with a reminder that Wilcox has her own site here, with attached shop ...






20 comments:

  1. Just to start off a sizzling Sunday, there's prattling Polonius's claim, yet again, about George Pell's "Melbourne Response" that: "In 1996, [Pell] became the first leader in church or state to act against institutional child sexual abuse."

    Firstly, let us note that not all 'institutional child abuse' is sexual, quite an amount of it - still continuing in many places - is just sadistic violence. For a comprehensive Catholic analysis:
    St. Joseph's Child Safe Policies
    https://www.sjelst.catholic.edu.au/page/248/St.-Joseph

    Or in more specific detail:
    Child Protection - Reporting Obligations
    St Joseph's Primary School, Elsternwick

    https://www.sjelst.catholic.edu.au/uploaded_files/media/sje__child_protection__reporting_obligations.docx

    Secondly, Pell wasn't so much acting against child (sexual) abuse as he was protecting the Catholic Church against any legal intervention on behalf of the abused children. See:

    "Upon being named as Archbishop of Melbourne in 1996, Pell established what became known as the "Melbourne Response" to deal with complaints of sexual abuse.

    It was later estimated the Melbourne Response saved the Catholic Church from paying up to $62 million compensation to victims of sexual abuse.

    In 2001, Pell was appointed Archbishop of Sydney where under his leadership the archdiocese adopted an aggressive legal stance against its victims
    ."

    Pell was always crucial to the church's war on its own victims
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/pell-was-always-crucial-to-the-church-s-war-on-its-own-victims-20190226-p510ef.html

    And then there was the Royal Commission:

    "The commission noted several problems with the Melbourne Response – a program set up by Cardinal George Pell in late 1996 when he was Archbishop of Melbourne – in a report released on Monday.

    The case study identified 12 systemic issues, including the role of the Catholic Church in determining its own redress, and the "relationship between those delivering or coordinating counselling and pyschological care and those making decisions about the abuse and compensation
    ".

    Catholic Church's Melbourne Response criticised by royal commission
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/catholic-churchs-melbourne-response-criticised-by-royal-commission-20150914-gjm1l2.html

    So, as usual, don't trust the black heart of a reptile, and especially not Polonius in reference to Pell or any matter involving Catholicism in any form.

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    1. It seems the judiciary in Victoria failed to consult Polonius in this case, when will they ever learn:

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-01/victorian-child-sex-abuse-win-compensation-case-catholic-church/12721320

      ""The settlement embodied in the deed was not a reasonable assessment of the plaintiff's loss and damage in 1996, or adequate compensation by today's standards," the judge found."

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    2. "The victim's lawyer, Michael Magazanik, said his client was bullied by the church into accepting a pathetic settlement.

      "That happened to hundreds and hundreds of Victorians, not just Catholic Church survivors, but all sorts of institutions," he said.
      "

      Yep, not only assorted "godly" institutions, but also state orphanages and secular schools and such. And in every case it was just the almost zero possibility of being brought to account for their crimes - or even of ever having it recognised that crimes had been committed - that spurred them on.

      Of course those who claim to believe in a supreme being of some kind usually have the 'out' that if they repent, then they are forgiven. But the thing is, very few ever repent because they basically believe that they simply haven't committed a sin, or even just a misdemeanour.

      But best of luck to WCB and Magazanik and to all those who may be similarly motivated if they win.

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  2. As to Dame Slap today: "anything to avoid scribbling about her devotion to the pussy-grabbing Donald in days gone past...". Yep, spot on there, DP and Christopher Monckton doesn't get much of a mention these days either.

    Then, as you aver: "The pond cannot begin to enumerate the many incompetent men in positions of power it has encountered during its working life." And not only you, I, for just one, could add a few names to the list myself. With even more to come

    But Slappy has a point, DP: just because for, as far as we know, all of documented human history, women have been repressed and deprived of any individuality and free choice, doesn't mean that shouldn't continue. After all, just consider Slappy herself: she wasn't ever given a hand up or a free ride, was she. Everything she's achieved, she's achieved by her own splendid - but unaided - efforts.

    And anyway, whoever said one could overcome many millenia of prejudice and suppression in a mere century or so. Obviously, it will take at least as many years as women have been forcibly repressed in order to establish a new gender order. So come back in around about 8020 and some discernible progress might have been made.

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  3. Not to tell you what to process on our behalf, DP (and, for all I know, you may have been saving it for the evening of this extended weekend) but my Source has sent me an item of massive significance, from this weekend’s Flagship, and other readers should be aware.

    It comes from Graham Lloyd, but it has taken me some little time to get to grips with its significance and implication.

    His column is titled ‘What if nature has the means to beat climate change itself?’ and starts with ‘What if nature has a special way of using the sun, cosmic rays, water vapour and clouds to regulate the temperature of the planet. What if these process have already been explored but too hastily dismissed?’

    To be fair, he makes it plain that he is drawing on the work of others - Jennifer Marohasy and Peter Ridd. Ms Marohasy is editor of a book, about to be published by the Institute of Public Affairs with the simple title ‘Climate Change The Facts 2020.’

    Ms Marohasy has a lot of ‘form’ in misinformation, but it would be tedious to go over it here.

    Lloyd’s ‘review’ starts with the contribution of one Svensmark, who, apparently (assuming Lloyd has understood what is written; there is room for doubt) tries to make a case that low clouds are important for the radiative energy balance of Earth, so they can cool the Earth’s atmosphere, but that this is driven by ‘changes in cosmic-ray flux modulated by the sun and the position of our solar system relative to exploding stars in other galaxies.’

    And - lest you had any doubt - Lloyd adds, triumphantly - ’There is no role for carbon dioxide in Svensmark’s theory of climate change.’

    Phew - exploding stars in other galaxies. Well, I thought - there is an opportunity for Jones and Credlin to do another of their famous demonstrations of climate science using items from the supermarket. Who can forget Ms Credlin pouring grains of rice into a bowl, to show - something.

    Of course, for them to demonstrate Svensmark’s so persuasive thoughts about exploding stars, they might have to seek help from whichever nation is sending the next rocket to the Moon. Let a grain of rice be our sun - in the studio of Sky News. A passing Covid-19 virus could represent our Earth - it is even a convenient shape. To keep the distances in proportion (a light year is a long way) - give a box of matches to the next astronaut to land on the moon. Imagine, if you will, that the head of one of those matches is an incipient super-nova in our nearest galaxy - Canis Major. When the astronaut ignites that match head - watch for the effect on the grain of rice - and the virus that represents our planet. Note the effect of that match flare on both items - and there you have a simple demonstration of climate change, according to Svensmark.

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    1. Strewth, Chad, I haven't heard anything about Svensmark's cosmic rays for more that a decade. It was nonsense then, and it's still nonsense now. We aren't really going to go through that all over again are we ?

      Probably the Desmogblog post is the best short read for anybody interested:
      Henrik Svensmark
      https://www.desmogblog.com/henrik-svensmark

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    2. Beautiful symmetry in that demonstration, Chadwick. Just such a shame the match won't flare on the moon.

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    3. GB - I just took that as IPA's commitment to recycling.

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    4. The pond deeply regrets missing Lloydie's latest - so many reptiles, so little time - but thanks for the tip, and perhaps it can be given its proper place in the sun in the next day or so, because the pond is a devoted Lloydie fan ... what with him having saved the Amazon and all, and that just for starters ...

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    5. Thank you Dorothy - I am aware that some of us tend to amble off from the theme on any given day, but it is always done with respect to the proprietor of the blog.

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  4. But, before you dial up the IPA to order your own copy of of ‘Climate Change The Facts 2020’, be warned that there are alternative views. Enter Peter Ridd, as Lloyd puts it ‘Applying some mathematics,’.

    According to Lloyd, ‘Ridd demonstrates that with increasing green house gas concentration in the lower atmosphere, air temperatures can increase and thus raise the water vapour content of the air if this occurs over tropical oceans. Ridd calculates that for every 1C rise in tropical temperature, the heat transfer by the convection pathway will increase by 10 per cent.’

    OK - Ridd appears to invoke stuff called ‘green house gas’, which rather puts him at odds with Svensmark. That kind of taxes the intuition - because how could some trace gas compete with the power of an exploding star. In that time-honoured phrase ‘use a bit of common sense’.

    Here is a further quandary for Editor Marohasy, and reviewer Lloyd, because Ridd and Richard Lindzen (yep, all the top names are here) explain ‘that, because of the complexity of the physical processes at work . . . and the role clouds play in facilitating negative (cooling) feedback, the Earth is unlikely to overheat.’

    Now there is an interesting concept. Gosh - the Earth just happens to be set up so that it looks after itself, maintaining this Goldilocks temperature zone, for the benefit of all the things that live on it, and in the waters and - wherever.

    It’s almost as if our planet is a - how would you put it? - like a mother, caring for her brazillions of dependents. Makes you wonder if there mightn’t be a term from, I dunno, Greek mythology, that you could use as a convenient term for that effect. There are a few candidates - Cybele, Rhea - but I am sure these are widely cultured people, and they could come up with their own term - from the Greek, as is appropriate for scientific nomenclature.

    Perhaps they do just that. The book is available on order right now. In fact, you can order the book, and become a member of the IPA, for $99. Just forgo about 15 of those soy lattes with benefits.



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    1. Think I'll stick to my lattes, Chad. But isn't it sad that, in fact, the Earth's surface temperature goes through quite large variations over millions of years. So, does Ridd's rubbish explain how the Earth warms up again after an ice age - quite a significant degree of first planet-wide cooling, followed by planet-wide warming - and there have been quite a few ice ages over time.

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    2. I was wondering what you got for being an IPA member. Well, the $99 is not completely wasted because you do get an IPA pen and an IPA keyring.
      After that it tapers off a bit. You get priority access to IPA events. What are they?
      "The IPA has hosted events featuring some of the world’s most engaging and thoughtful speakers from both Australia and overseas. Recently the IPA has hosted the nation-wide tours of Matt Ridley, Mark Steyn, Andrew Bolt and Dan Hannan. For notice of future events, subscribe to Hey…What Did I Miss? For early notice and discount prices, become an IPA member today.
      No posts found
      Sorry, but nothing matched your search criteria".

      I think I won’t become a member.

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    3. They do mention 'complexity', GB. And it involves some mathematics.

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    4. Everything does involve some mathematics which generally can be constructed and construed for almost any purpose. But Ridd and Lindzen together ? What a joy.

      But I really am relieved to be told that what we see around us isn't really happening. That's the way that most insanity goes.

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    5. It having sunk in a bit further, the book, in its way, reminds me of some of the musters of the irrationals that, back when I was a Skeptic, I sometimes took notice of. All the usual nonsenses: flat Earthers, all kinds of pseudo-medical stuff, paranormalists etc etc. They'd have a bit of a public convocation to flog their various wares and push their various nonsenses.

      And it never seemed to matter to them that they were all pushing various inconsistent and downright contradictory beliefs and products. So I guess it won't matter to Marohasy or Lloydie or the IPA that their snake oil is like that. As long as it is contra anthropogenic climate change, then it's all good stuff.

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  5. Here is a lazy Sunday’s musings on the POTUS’s current predicament, with apologies to Ricky Nelson. This little exercise in wishful thinking may seem harsh to some – see for example Twitter’s threat to pull down those crazy “Is Trump dead yet?” posts. But why should his potential demise be cause for such concern, especially when he has consistently shown little regard for his own nation’s almost one thousand coronavirus fatalities each day?


    (Rose) Garden Party

    Trump threw a garden party, to gloat with his cronies and friends
    They were shaking hands and shooting the breeze, without their masks (again)
    His minions came from miles around, every hack was there
    But Kellyanne had the virus, and it landed on Trump’s hair

    And he’s - gone viral now
    His campaign is on the shelf
    If he thinks he’ll be the next President
    Then he’s just fooling himself

    And now he’s isolated, undergoing experiments
    With Regeneron and Remdesivir, he won’t stand down for Pence
    Trump believes he’s above it all, and he’ll pull through unscathed
    Yet he could be a Covid statistic, lying in his grave

    Yes his - luck ran out
    But he never was a picture of health
    If he thinks he’s got corona beat
    He’s only fooling himself

    Is he - contrite now?
    Has he learned his lesson well?
    For the Donald to admit he might have been wrong
    There’s no chance in hell

    So it’s - goodbye Trump
    You’re a dog who’s had his day
    You made a huge deal with the evil one
    And now it’s time to pay

    La da da dah etc…

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    1. And I thought that the original 'Garden Party' was just Ricky Nelson being over sensitive about a little negative thinking. But good one, Kez

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    2. Thank you Kez, the now defunct MAD magazine would approve. You might have to take quill in hand once more for the sequel if the party goers spread the virus to the
      Supreme Court and President Biden gets to appoint 6 new members.

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    3. You think maybe Trump could spread his virus to all the conservative members of SCOTUS, JM ? Oh, be still my beating heart.

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