The pond sometimes feels deep shame, and it's not just ashes in a filing cabinet on a strange journey. What if the ghost of Dorothy Parker dropped by to discover her name had been purloined in the interests of amateur herpetological studies?
But a reptile student must do what a reptile student must do, occasionally leavened with outside reflections, as per this recently in The Atlantic, here if you haven't used up your free clicks ...
A powerful tribal identity bonds the president to his supporters. As Amy Chua, the author of Political Tribes: Group Instinct and the Fate of Nations, has argued, the tribal instinct is not just to belong, but also to exclude and to attack. “When groups feel threatened,” Chua writes, “they retreat into tribalism. They close ranks and become more insular, more defensive, more punitive, more us-versus-them.”
That works both ways. Fear strengthens tribalistic instincts, and tribalistic instincts amplify fear. Nothing bonds a group more tightly than a common enemy that is perceived as a mortal threat. In the presence of such an enemy, members of tribal groups look outward rather than inward, at others and never at themselves or their own kind.
The danger of this mindset—in which the means, however unethical, justify the ends of survival—is obvious. And so in this case, Trump supporters will tolerate everything he does, from making hush-money payments to porn stars and engaging in sexually predatory behavior, to inviting America’s adversaries to intervene in our elections, to pressuring American allies to dig up dirt on the president’s opponent, to cozying up to some of the worst dictators in the world, to peddling crazed conspiracy theories, to mishandling a pandemic at the cost of untold lives, to countless other ethical and governing transgressions. Trump is given carte blanche by his supporters because they perceive him as their protector, transforming his ruthlessness from a vice into a virtue.
In my experience, if Trump supporters are asked to turn their gaze away from their perceived opponents, and instead to focus and reflect on him and on his failures, they respond in a couple of consistent ways. Many shift the topic immediately back to Democrats, because offering a vigorous moral defense of Donald Trump isn’t an easy task. It’s like asking people to stare directly into the sun; they might do it for an instant, but then they look away. But if you do succeed in keeping the topic on Trump, they often twist themselves into knots in order to defend him, and in some cases they simply deny reality.
“Motivation conditions cognition,” Jonathan Rauch, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a contributing writer at The Atlantic, wisely told me. Very few Trump supporters I know are able to offer an honest appraisal of the man. To do so creates too much cognitive dissonance.
Speaking of cognitive dissonance, what better way to introduce the bromancer, pretending he really is a balanced and sane observer of the world, and that he studies the Donald with the forensic skill of Sherlock Holmes?
Of course what the bromancer didn't start with was the latest astonishing news, perhaps because it would have identified him as a dropkick, a sucker and a loser ...
Yes, Rowe dug a few out of the archive here, and it seemed as good a way to interrupt the bromancer in mid-moronic flow as any ...
Indeed, indeed. Once upon a time, Ramirez was a completely loyal cartoonist, but of late, even he seems to have had his boundaries tested ...
But back to the bromancer, still pretending he's dealing with something other than a nepotic narcissist snake oil selling con man ...
But the reptiles have been mindlessly pro-Trump, and frequently scribble about TDS and such like, and it seems right to revert to Peter Wehner's piece in The Atlantic.
Now the pond has cut out a piece of both siderism by Wehner, where he correctly points out that the other tribe cut Bubba Clinton a lot of unseemly rope. The pond takes the point, and has no time for slick Willy, but space is short, and it can be followed in the link above, so let's just cut to remaining bit of the Donald chase ...
...what’s different in this case is that Trump, because of the corruption that seems to pervade every area of his life and his damaged psychological and emotional state, has shown us just how much people will accept in their leaders as a result of “negative partisanship,” the force that binds parties together less in common purpose than in opposition to a shared opponent. As the conservative writer David French has put it, with Donald Trump and his supporters we are seeing “negative partisanship in its near-pure form, and it’s the best way to explain Trump’s current appeal to the Republican party.” His ideology is almost entirely beside the point, according to French: “His identity matters more, and his identity is clear—the Republican champion against the hated Democratic foe.”
I know plenty of Trump supporters, and I know many of them to be people of integrity in important areas of their lives. Indeed, some are friends I cherish. But if there is a line Donald Trump could cross that would forfeit the loyalty of his core supporters—including, and in some respects especially, white evangelical Christians — I can’t imagine what it would be. And that is a rather depressing thing to admit.
Polarization and political tribalism are not new to America; fear and hatred for our fellow citizens have been increasing for decades. We’ve had plenty of presidents who have failed us, in ways large and small. But this moment is different because Donald Trump is different, and because Donald Trump is president. His relentless assault on truth and the institutions of democracy—his provocations and abuse of power, his psychological instability and his emotional volatility, his delusions and his incompetence—are unlike anything we’ve seen before. He needs to be stopped. And his supporters can’t say, as they did in 2016, that they just didn’t know. Now we know. It’s not too late—it’s never too late—to do the right thing.
Sorry, if you happen to be the bromancer, or the rest of the reptiles it's always too late to scribble the right thing ...
Well a final cartoon from Rowe will see off that half-based assembly of weak-kneed, apologetic bromancer bullshit ...
And so, it being a Monday, to the dog botherer, and the pond couldn't help but notice this sublime nonsense in the Weekly Beast last Friday, here ...
So how does the dog botherer repay the fermenting Meade? You guessed it, the dog fucker carried on regardless, proudly showing off that enormous ABC chip in his shoulder, an obsession that verges on the sociopathic, and which routinely turns up on a Monday in the lizard Oz, either as the main game or as an aside, an itch that constantly needs scratching, like a dog relentlessly humping a leg in an onanistic way ...
What's so funny about this? Well the doggie botherer is having a go at Adams for being an ABC lifer, but after a short stint in The Age, Adams began writing columns for the lizard Oz in the 1960s, on television and then on other matters, purporting to be a socialist, while doing the socialist thing of acquiring Egyptian artefacts and eventually turning to the life of an upper Hunter squatter, and in short, living the reptile dream ... a lizard Oz lifer, like so many of them are ...
Adams' tenure at the lizard Oz shows the propensity of the Murdochians for a lifetime tenure, if you know how to tug the forelock and bend the knee. That's why this very day that medal-searching odour from the north, the Major Mitchell, is scribbling about China this day - the war never ends - and soon enough, nattering "Ned" will turn up to wring his hands, as he's done for decades ...
Apparently the dog fucker is so stupid that he can't even look at his own Murdochian navel ...
Oh if only the fermenting Meade had the foresight to wait until the Monday, and then she might have thought twice ...
Meanwhile, in the interests of completeness, and the dog botherer reverting to Twitter, despite it being a form of alcoholic vice and addiction for him, the pond should note the ongoing habit of the reptiles of breaking up the reptile musings with sundry distractions, including this one ...
As the pond uses screen caps, it has done its archival duty - others can google if they want - and now it can get back to the dog botherer spouting even more nonsense ... and if anyone wants to bet that it includes the dog botherer's other expertise, climate science, please, how stupid do you think the pond is?
Do you think the pond came down in the last shower, do you imagine that the pond would be a sucker and a loser and line up for that sort of bet, no matter how long the odds offered?
And there you go, a mention of the dog botherer's other obsession somehow wrangled in ... climate science from a dog fucker keen, not just to fuck dogs, but to fuck the planet entirely ...
And so to the bonus for the day, and the pond regrets that it isn't the Major Mitchell, busy maintaining the war on China - the pond hears it's going splendidly - but the pond simply couldn't give up the chance of seeing a reformed, recovering feminist show her deep love for a manly man ...
It is of course an old saw in romance novels that the heroine can see things in her manly man, and offer him redemption, and a way forward in the world, with her devotion and transforming love, and so it is with the Oreo, as she manages to scribble about the onion muncher's "fine track record."
Sigh. We've all been there ...
But here the pond must pause to note that the reptiles deemed the Oreo so dull that readers once again were in urgent need of distraction, and again the pond was forced to do its archival screen cap duty ... though only mug punters will feel the need to try to enlarge the image by clicking on it ...
The pond can't count the number of times the reptiles have promoted that Sky tweet, as if the UK mob were still in the reptile company, but at least it meant that the Oreo only had to do a par before the next tweet would intrude ...
It figures, of course. When you can't say much about the beloved, best malign the other, as first noted in The Atlantic piece on tribalism above, and the Oreo is tribal and bitchy in a way that evokes not so much a recovering, reformed feminist as Raquel Welch in One Million Years B.C. ...
Miaow, but it left the Oreo with another short couple of pars ...
Of course the pond cares not a whit or a jot. We've managed to export the onion muncher, perhaps the most successful export in recent Australian history, a bit like passing off aged mutton as exciting young lamb ... but the Oreo is so devoted, so committed, it almost feels charming, like a young 'un in the first flush of heated love, and never mind the age of the 'well past the use-by date' mutton ...
When you realise that the Oreo is in fact, a recovering, reformed feminist there is so much that's amusing in the above passages that the pond simply didn't know where to begin. Instead it performed its archival duty, because at this point the reptiles felt the need to interrupt the Oreo, this time by reproducing (yet again) the text of a sister being family ... as if she was going to admit that the onion muncher's opposition to gay marriage was in any way homophobic, when really he was just uncomfortable when in the company of poofters, and much preferred the manly ritutals of bum sniffing rugger buggers ...
You can click on it to enlarge if you like, but the pond felt it should just point out that everything it's been saying about the Oreo will shortly come to pass ...
Oh come on, that's hardly playing fair you say, but look at what the reptiles slipped in as a final distraction ...
Indeed, indeed, thank the long absent lord for a manly man, a firefighter, to set the Oreo ablaze ...
And yet we should rejoice with her, and her recovering, reformed feminist devotion.
Wiser punters amongst us in Australia know how lucky we are to have passed off a dud note on a pack of dumb Poms ... as Kerry Packer noted, you only get the odd Alan Bond come along in a lifetime, and Boris is about as bent Bond as they come ...
Rowe, in his usual immortal way, summed up the matter in his usual way, with a splendid vision of "Yes", and who can argue with the hirsute "Yes" scrawled on the chest of the Doctor No firefighter that made the Oreo swoon so?
"Very few Trump supporters I know are able to offer an honest appraisal of the man. To do so creates too much cognitive dissonance."
ReplyDeleteYou know, that sounds just like a lot of people's response to religion: especially the likes of Polonius and the Bromancer (not that I'm ever going to waste a microsecond on 'God Is Good For You' any more than I am on his Trump 'appraisals').
It’s a pity Trump Derangement Syndrome was invented by Trump supporters to insult Trump opponents. It should be the other way around.
ReplyDeleteI am genuinely puzzled about my mate who used to be a mathematician and philosopher and has now become a bible basher. Recently in Quadrant he talked about the basis of morality and how mere human reasoning by men such as Locke and Mill is not enough to establish it. Only the authority of the Bible can do this. I wouldn’t try to defeat this argument, because I know he would use his philosopher’s tools and “subtle reasoning” as he calls it, to win.
The puzzle is: how does he go from that position to flat out support for Trump? The jump is so big that it can only be TDS.
The situation with Sheridan is somewhat different in that every he says is so frivolous that it’s not worth trying to detect a pattern.
Well if you get a chance, ask your numbskull religious nutter:
Delete1. what "bible" is he referring to, published in what language, when and by whom and why is he ignoring all the other bibles published throughout history.
2. what does he believe happens to people who go to heaven ? If, that is, he believes anybody actually "goes to heaven".
I would be really interested to know his answers.
I don't know if I can articulate this correctly NH but a certain type of personality would rather have false certainty than live with the sort of doubts that accompany a rational approach.
DeleteWhen the Bromancer talks about religion he is talking about why he needs a belief not about whether that belief is supported in any logical or observable sense. Personally, I find it a bit juvenile, like a child sticking their head under the blanket as if the cause of an anxiety will go away if you don't look at it.
Just digressing, a guy I shared a house with ended up joining the priesthood. He had a pretty good life as far as I could see but he was always gloomy saying things like "there must be something better than this". Amusingly, my other flatmate would look around the room and respond "dunno, looks pretty good to me".
More people seem to go the other way however, like those bright kids at school who flirt with god squad but eventually decide it's going nowhere and head off in their own direction.
I'd refer to that "certain type of personality" as the base personality of the vast majority of the human race, Bef. Despite centuries of great progress in science, despite having clearly incontrovertible evidence that whatever is presented as 'religion' is transient nonsense (look up all of history's religions - who reads Zoroaster nowadays, does anybody even remember the name of the Aztec god, what is happening in the land of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, and why do "the chosen of God" still represent a miniscule part of the human population), the majority of the human race insist in sticking with their own tribal deity and reserving the right to slaughter any who believe otherwise.
DeleteLess and less every census in the land of Oz. In my experience, there's few that have a Bro type belief (or delusion), most just don't want to take the step of acknowledging they have moved on.
DeleteThen there's social reasons, fitting in with family etc. Most folk I know are really atheists though they often don't want to say that.
Oh - and in less developed countries it's the old clan, family, religion thing.
DeleteSomeone quoted an Afghan as saying "If someone stole your bike and you reported it to the police, the police would beat you up. When the Taliban were in charge you got your bike back, it had blood on it, but you got the bike back"
Religion provides a social structure sometimes when the state is dysfunctional.
Back in my youth, Bef, my father was what was called a "freethinker" - that is somebody who believed in a God, just not in any particular invocation of one. And of course, even Christians actually believe in 'multiple Gods' - the one in three and three in one. Nowadays, such people as my father are called 'deists' in contradistinction to 'theists' who believe in some sort of 'holy writ'. Whereof, despite having won Sunday School prizes in my very young years, I was an established 'agnostic' before being a teenager. It was only later that I thought 'agnostic' was pointless; so I'm a kind of atheist 'agnostic' these days: can't actually prove that no god or gods exist but reckon there's bountiful evidence that none of the gods that 'theists' believe in actually exist.
DeleteAnd here I stand, I can do no other. But I can't quite accept that a few less who respond to 'Religion' on the census actually means all that much; but at least it seems to have, slowly, meant the legalisation of abortion, of euthanasia (in more places, anyway), of the decriminalisation of blasphemy - though not yet in Australia, so don't publicly insult the Xtian God will you - and even the legalisation of 'homogender' marriage.
And, just by way of clarification, the state - responsible for all that liberal stuff - provides a social structure when religion is dysfunctional. And religion is always dysfunctional.
Now you really got anyone going NH, but the pond suspects that your suddenly religious mater couldn't answer the thing that always bemused the pond - no, not complimentary women of the Anglican kind, which is easy enough to understand, but transubstantiation (oh and why coeliacs must eat of wheat so they can die and go to heaven straight away).
DeleteIf you had a certified immediate pathway to heaven wouldn't you take it, DP ?
DeleteQuoting Wehner: "I know plenty of Trump supporters, and I know many of them to be people of integrity in important areas of their lives. Indeed, some are friends I cherish."
ReplyDeleteYou know, I'll bet that's what the Wehners of the day said about Hitler and Mussolini and Franco and Stalin. And they probably meant it every bit as stupidly sincerely as he does now. And the Bromancer - among a plague of reptiles - would most likely support and endorse every word.
And that's why he exclaims that "The hardest thing when writing about Trump is to maintain balance, not to be overwhelmed or intimidated by the abuse and double standards of his enemies..." Ok, so how about I just get "overwhelmed and intimidated" by Trump's lying evil "double" standards, then ?
So "Trump is a magnificently rewarding subject." - that from a man who thinks he can honestly write about how 'God Is Good For You'. I used to think that Sheridan was basically just a stupid ignoramus; now I know that he is a lying, stupid evil ignoramus. And not a very good one at that.
" though only mug punters will feel the need to try to enlarge the image by clicking on it ..."
ReplyDeleteI may be a mug, DP, but it's years since I've been a punter, so indeed I did enlarge the image if only to celebrate a 'Sky News' that owes nothing to Roopie or his minions.
Because Trump is so manifestly inadequate, corrupt and offensive at the same time the reptiles seem to be doing this thing where they acknowledge some, but certainly not all, faults before mounting a defence. Trouble is, no defence seems to be forthcoming.
ReplyDeleteThe only Trump 'strength' that the Bro lists that is actually true is that he hasn't started a war (yet). The rest is demonstrably wrong. The economy, border wall, foreign policy, military spending and health? It requires seriously woolly thinking for anyone to take comfort in any of these policies.
Sheridan must have a fixed connection to the wrong side of history.
The Oracular Oreo: "His [Abbott's] former chief of staff, Sky News host Peta Credlin, repudiates the claim he is a misogynist ..."
ReplyDeleteGiven his abominable public performances with Julia Gillard, then if he isn't a misogynist, he's an outright arse hole of the worst kind.
And so Christine Forster "came out to him" in her early 40s. Would she care to explain why it took her so long to explain herself to a loved brother who is neither a homophobe nor a misogynist ? And what about Abbotts' daughters - where are they ?
Very good question GB......Forster seems to have a touch of the Sarah Huckabee-Sanders going on for the OM.
DeleteI totally agree with your comment that Sheridan has a fixed connection to the wrong side of history, be it Trump, Abbott, Pell and many others.....and there does seem to be a religious connection/thread to his thinking.
“Resistance journalism” certainly does describes that raving diatribe. And rational populist!.....Sheridan is sounding clearly strange of late.
Regards NH’s musing on the big jump to religious life.......a most astonishing example of someone becoming instantly god struck was an extremely intelligent guy I used to share house with, who on a Sunday night fell off his ‘42 Harley Shovelhead while under the effects of acid. No injuries, just slid in the wet taking a corner. By the Wednesday he had, a was part of the commitment, donated all his worldly possessions....which somehow included my best boots, and joined the Hare Krishna religious cult without a word to anyone, including his brother. He became the head of PR opaganda! :))
Go figure. CA.
That’s a great story. I knew someone who went from shoe salesman to bikie overnight, but the transition wasn’t as spectacular as that.
DeleteNot so much the jump to religious life, but the jump from some kind of impregnable (to me anyway) consolidation of mathematics, philosophy and Christianity to Trumpism (and back again).
I clicked the link to Peter Wehner’s article in The Atlantic. It partly explains my friend who stands for strict sexual morality, family values, the Bible etc., along with logic, science and baroque music, but who also believes Trump is the last hope against the collapse of western civilization.
But I couldn’t agree that Trump is “unlike anything we’ve seen before”. I am reading “Demagogue: the Life and Long Shadow of Joe McCarthy” by Larry Tye. I’m only 1/3 through the 600 pages, but it’s obvious he was Trump Mark 1. Utterly careless and disorganised lying, knowing that it wouldn’t matter; vicious, unfair attacks on opponents; terrible behaviour; extreme selfishness … on and on. And of course McCarthy’s lawyer, Roy Cohn, was Trump’s lawyer. Well, he lost in the end, but Trump is much more successful. And what happens when Mark 3 comes along?
Yeah, NH, logic is something you only ever use against your opponents, never something to apply to yourself.
DeleteGood reminder and pointer to McCarthy though, thanks. But then a lot of that applies to quite a few of them: Nixon, Reagan, Clinton (Bill, that is) amongst others, they're just not quite so visibly rabid about things.
The land of George Wallace will always find like minds ...
DeleteNow that is a good one, DP; Wallace probably "outshines" them all, maybe even Trump.
DeleteFascinating though what a "broad church" the yanqui Democrats once were - so broad that it stretched all the way to Hades. Which is apparently where Wallace lived in the later part of his life after encountering a patriotic citizen exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.
Hi Dorothy,
ReplyDeleteA couple of months ago there was a lot of speculation by the punditry (not the Murdoch reptiles I hasten to add) about the polling that was indicating that Trump was in serious trouble with the US electorate. His mishandling of the pandemic response, culminating in his suggestions that ingesting bleach and shoving a UV light up the wazoo might be an effective treatment, was proving seriously alienating with the average US voter.
The pundits suggested that there had been some sort of intervention by senior republicans and powerful Trump backers and that the Donald had been given an ultimatum. They would continue to back his re-election but if he hadn’t turned around the polling numbers by Labor Day then he was on his own.
Well tomorrow is Labor Day in the US and both Albrechtsen this weekend and Sheridan today, were far less unequivocal in their support of Trump that they have been previously.
With just eight weeks to go before the election it will be interesting to see if News Corp and the GOP believe that they are too invested in Trump’s re-election that they will go along no matter what the outcome or they will make the decision to cut and run.
DiddyWrote
Re Trump, Biden and polling DW, it seems that the old rule applies; no matter what goes down, 'conservatives' always poll better in the economy:
DeleteVoters expressed more confidence in Trump on the economy, but Biden led on everything else.
https://www.vox.com/2020/9/6/21425219/biden-lead-trump-new-national-polls-2020
They'll stick with the Donald, DW, there's too much money to be made in Fox News to cut and run, and leave the field. It would be the end of the Chairman's empire, and if that's the price to pay for fucking the United States and the planet, and empowering dictators, he'll happily pay it. Remember he was willing to do the dance with the Chinese Communist party, and was only upset when they refused to dance with him ...
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