In the pond's time within the bosom of the Holy R C whatever, it was notable that the word of Christ was rarely at the church's heart.
The Bible, and even Christ, were treated as secondary sources. Oh sure, they both turned up in the Mass in some fair abundance, but it was quite clear that the head honcho was actually the infallible Pope, and he might invoke limbo or purgatory, or dismiss them into limbo with a word or a gesture...
The pond, being in a mixed religion family, had this constantly pointed out by the 'sola scriptura' members of the family, and so became a bit sensitive to the charge ...
This also leads to a certain defensiveness amongst Catholics, as shown by one Father Dwight Longenecker here ...
Well it's a good try, but in the pond's day, there wasn't a bible in the house, except for the ones that came from the protestant side.
The pond didn't sit down and read the Catholic bible from cover to cover at a tender age - nobody knew there was an officially approved translation - and so it was the King James version which transfixed and was a revelation ... both as to the sublime nonsense and the post-Elizabethan way with words ...
The pond didn't sit down and read the Catholic bible from cover to cover at a tender age - nobody knew there was an officially approved translation - and so it was the King James version which transfixed and was a revelation ... both as to the sublime nonsense and the post-Elizabethan way with words ...
By comparison, the Catholic version fed to the pond in school was a gobbledegook of catechism and Roman propaganda, with occasional readings larded into the gaps ...
The church provided the official line, and if you strayed, hell was waiting ...
The church provided the official line, and if you strayed, hell was waiting ...
Gasp, could there be a more astonishing or wicked or evil thought crime than freedom of thought?
Which neatly brings the pond to this Sunday's meditation and an explanation of just why the Catholic church is so obdurate and resistant to change in relation to others, while within the body of the beast there is much corruption, of a fleshly and banking and power-seeking kind ...
Which neatly brings the pond to this Sunday's meditation and an explanation of just why the Catholic church is so obdurate and resistant to change in relation to others, while within the body of the beast there is much corruption, of a fleshly and banking and power-seeking kind ...
All this is actually old enough news, in terms of concepts ... all the blather about grave danger to souls high minded jargon for protecting the franchise ...
Of course nothing has changed locally in the war between the conservatives and those who actually noted the content of some of Christ's speeches ...
Yes indeed, Galileo could be called out of retirement to testify to the way that the church has preserved learning, and perhaps we could also reference a few of the books on the long serving Index Librorum prohibitorum ....
Rule IV
Since experience teaches that, if the reading of the Holy Bible in the vernacular is permitted generally without discrimination, more damage than advantage will result because of the boldness of men, the judgment of bishops and inquisitors is to serve as guide in this regard. Bishops and inquisitors may, in accord with the counsel of the local priest and confessor, allow Catholic translations of the Bible to be read by those of whom they realize that such reading will not lead to the detriment but to the increase of faith and piety. The permission is to be given in writing. Whoever reads or has such a translation in his possession without this permission cannot be absolved from his sins until he has turned in these Bibles …
Of course when they say the church can't change, they reckon without the way it can spin on a dime, or even read Herman Hesse if it will help ...
More here, but the pond wishes it was around in a couple of hundred years time, when the defiantly gay Pope Francis X proudly reveals that the roots of the ecumenical Catholic church arose almost entirely from the gay marriage movement ...
Meanwhile, this being a Sunday meditation, the pond should also report on an event which has sent the reptiles into a frenzy of fear and loathing ...
Now frankly the pond was shocked that anyone would make a joke about such a grave matter. "Are children safe at Mercure and Accor hotels?"
Well indeed, if you've seen the Sydney Airport Hotel you might wonder ...
We keed, we keed, but why were they meeting at this very tired site?
Why couldn't they comfortably fit the 100 or so within a church hall? Is it possible that there were territorial disputes and suspicions?
Or was it the lure of catering and a chance to flop down in a motel room and live a life of decadence, if only for a night?
Of course Willy was always a big one for hotels and motels, for deals and one-night stands, and always be closing ...
But enough of the gay music, because the news naturally sent the Bolter into a frenzy ...
Yes the spluttering Bolter is reduced to a spluttering repetition of himself, and never mind that Shelton himself has been in breach of Godwin's Law and not put a cent in the swear jar.
The Bolter really can't stand anyone different, and Pantsdown really sends him into a frenzy. That alone should please Simon Hunt ...
The Bolter really can't stand anyone different, and Pantsdown really sends him into a frenzy. That alone should please Simon Hunt ...
Of course how singing a satirical song is a totalitarian frenzy is something only the Bolter, in his infinite stupidity, could possibly understand ... though the song "I don't like it!" should really be at the top of every Bolter posting ...
"across the Rubicon into deep waters, uncharted for centuries"!!! Priceless!
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, Turnable is in NYC to seek consolation from Higher Power. Forget the UN, though. Who will he beseech first - Trump or Rupe?
ReplyDeleteNews Corp should call in some of the Daily Terror's Photoshop brigade and put Tess Livingstone in a wimple. It wouldn't make her sermons any more palatable, but it would be appropriate.
ReplyDeleteBTW, Tess - if the (almost) 2,000-year old Catholic Church is such a mighty institution, why is it threatened by allowing a few divorcees to take Communion? I would have thought it had bigger and more pressing issues with which to concern itself.......
Yeah, like how come, after more than 2000 years and backed by the might of the omniscient, omnipotent creator of the entire universe and everything in it, that the Catholic Church has still only managed to get about 1.2 billion adherents out of the world's roughly 7.5 billion people (about 16%).
DeleteIf I were the Pope, I'd be worried about when God might just junk the Church and institute a different bunch of folks who might actually be able to get the job done. How long would anybody else put up with such exceptional incompetence ?
And when the fuck is Jesus coming back? Two thousand years and no sign of the bastard is there? I'm thinking maybe peeps misunderstood when he said he was coming back? Maybe the christians are supposed to become Jesus themselves rather than being so lazy and stupid as to wait around to be saved again without doing anything like the things the man said to do.
DeleteSo, there was no basis, then, to Simon Hunt's particular complaint that the Accor Hotels group had a well-established legal obligation to ensure a safe, secure, and non-discriminatory workplace for all guests and all staff, which obligation was arguably, and very likely, breached by booking, and to be breached, with specific notice, by actually hosting, the ACL event? And that'd be the same ACL previously lobbying for anti-discrimination laws to be purged for the duration of their self-interest in an unofficial and unsanctioned marriage inequality campaign collateral to a formal 'no' campaign envisaged as proceeding per a tabled parliamentary enactment?
ReplyDeleteThat Catholic claim to the King James is hilarious - it's amusing how the servants of an omniscient one can themselves be so ignorant. Anyway, anybody in doubt should just have a read (Wikipedia will do) about the lives of John Wycliffe, William Tyndale, Myles Coverdale and the Geneva Bible - which was translated (largely by the aforementioned gentlemen) from the original Greek and Hebrew, not from the Latin Vulgate.
ReplyDeleteThe King James was commissioned - by King James, BOC - because of some rather Calvinist/Puritan "annotations" in the margins of the Geneva that were just a tad cynical about claims to "the divine right of kings'. So James wanted an annotation-free bible that could replace the very popular Geneva. All the creators of the Geneva Bible were, of course, protestants who had fled England to escape the Catholic wrath of Queen Mary.
Angry bunch, Catholics, aren't they?
DeleteYou gotta laugh out loud when someone writes a lets pretend essay titled the word of Christ at the church's heart, and simultaneously promotes the the entirely bogus power and control seeking agendas of the faux back-to-the-past "traditionalist" agendas of the most reactionary elements of the "catholic" church too, with the cashed up opus dei being in the vanguard of such elements.
ReplyDeleteFor the real unvarnished truth about the applied politics and wall-to-wall make believe lies that misinform the kind of fantasies that Tess promotes why not google the topic - the vatican and world politics - one reference which comes up is this one www.reformation.org/holocaus.html
And the pope crimes and vatican evils website.