The pond woke up today under the weather and feeling very Wilcox.
Why did the reptiles keep on persecuting the pond? And was it a merry dance?
Then the pond realised it was actually suffering from a severe case of the Percy Graingers, which is to say a form of self-flagellation. It was really the pond that was doing it, lining up each day to chose a different whip ...
This day the pond could have chosen a couple of whips ...
There was the bromancer reaching peak hysteria, lathering up, frothing and foaming, "In 45 years of journalist, I've never seen anything like this."
Yet only the other day, the pond had lashed itself and induced nausea - by sticking the bromancer's pandering of the Church of LDS down its throat, rather than the simple expedient of a finger.
Something in the pond snapped. If the pond wants an opinion on Gaza, and Captain Spud, it'll turn to the infallible Pope ...
Oh that's cruel, cruel but fair ...
As for the bro whip, the pond simply couldn't offer the dignity of screen caps ... rather it was a festering brew of a word salad, with standard billy goat butts ...
..When it was talking to its own activist base, or Muslim voters in southwest Sydney and elsewhere unhappy that the government has shown even a schmick of sympathy for Israel, its message was: look, we’re rapidly advancing visas categories for Gaza Palestinians, so much more generously than the other guys would.
The billy goat butt came early in this selection ...
Those considerations do not, however, determine or even constrain future policy, or the honest, hard-headed discussion that must go on around it.
What a dung hill he is ...
That’s a huge difference. For the Prime Minister to claim otherwise is just absurd.
However, Burgess has also created a very big problem for the government. On the Insiders program, Burgess
said some moderate degree of support for the Hamas terror group would not be an obstacle to someone wanting to come to Australia, so long as that person did not share the Hamas ideology.
I missed this the first time I heard the Insiders interview, in retrospect I think because it is just such an odd statement.
In 45 years of professional journalism I can never remember any previous minister or official saying it was OK to support a terrorist group, provided that support was just verbal or some such. Even less is this all right for someone seeking to come to Australia. Is it OK to give verbal support to al-Qa’ida, or Islamic State, or even the Ku Klux Klan? Maybe such support wouldn’t get you locked up in Australia, but it certainly shouldn’t earn you a visa either. This is in fact a very radical statement. If not, show me its equivalent. It’s perfectly proper for the opposition to demand the government clarify it. The government is responsible for policy, not Burgess. The government must explain if it agrees with Burgess, and if this is now government policy, and just what degree of support for a terrorist organisation is acceptable. It’s elementary in a democracy that such a radical statement be clarified.
But in the almost absolute political cowardice with which the government has approached these issues, it’s treating Burgess’s statements as though they are infallible, beyond questioning and also beyond explanation, a sort of divine revelation above democratic scrutiny.
Burgess should perhaps reflect on the lesson of Pius IX, the first pope whose most officially elevated statements were defined as infallible in matters of faith and doctrine. When you are infallible, as I am, the pope is said to have remarked, you must be very careful of what you say.
Yep, the reptiles used those words to remind us we're dealing with a fundamentalist Catholic bigot ...
Really? What a pitiful, pathetic shadow of a graphics department it is, as on and on the bromancer rambled...
He agreed with criticism of some remarks by Barnaby Joyce. And his indecipherable idea that supporting Hamas a little bit is OK has become the centre of rancorous political debate.
As a communications exercise, this was as close to a disaster as you could get. The remarks haven’t calmed the nation, haven’t enlightened debate and have injected ASIO into the middle of domestic partisan dispute. All of this is not because of the wicked opposition, but because Burgess’s remarks were confused, confusing and arguably beyond the prudent public remit of an ASIO director-general. This is dangerous for the standing of ASIO in the long term.
Previous ASIO bosses used to lament that they delivered speeches no one read and which had no public impact. That’s infinitely better than today’s mess. Similarly, an ASIO boss has a natural, understandable, sensible need to get along with Muslim community leaders.
He shouldn’t try to curry favour with those leaders by censoring normal political debate.
Moral and political leadership is the province of government, and the political process more generally. It’s not the province of security chiefs.
It’s a sign that a government is bankrupt of moral authority when it tries to conscript the apolitical authority of an institution such as ASIO to serve its political cause.
Hamas is not only a terrorist organisation. Its charter contains the most foul and vicious traditional anti-Semitism. The government must clarify what it means to say some degree of support for Hamas is no problem. The opposition would be failing its duty to the nation to leave this matter unresolved.
If the pond wanted a follow up thought bubble, it'd turn to Golding ...
While in the mood for a little counter-reptile programming, the pond turned to Crikey. You won't see this story mentioned in the lizard Oz anytime soon ...
Oh dear, though the pond understands the instinct, each time the pond sees a Tesla passing by in the street, it feels an urge to give the sign to the driver ... (the pond thought it should also note that keen Keane yarn, just for the racist colour it added to the salute splash).
Meanwhile, Crikey had a story that genuinely shocked the pond ...‘Exactly what the Kremlin hoped’: Australia delays Masha Gessen visa over Russia conviction concerns, 'I am shocked that the first allies the Russians have found in this quest to constrain me are the Australian authorities, who have functionally denied me a visa,' Gessen said.
The Department of Home Affairs’ delay apparently stems from concerns over Gessen’s recent conviction in Russia. In mid-July, Gessen — a regular contributor to outlets such as The New Yorker and The New York Times — was sentenced in absentia to eight years imprisonment by a Moscow court after having written about alleged Russian war crimes during the nation’s invasion of Ukraine. The court claimed Gessen had spread “false information”.
“The Russian government’s persecution of me has one purpose: to make me feel unfree even though I am living in exile and they can’t currently jail me. What they can try to do is make it hard for me to move around the world,” Gessen said in a statement. “I am shocked that the first allies the Russians have found in this quest to constrain me are the Australian authorities, who have functionally denied me a visa.”
Simon Longstaff, executive director of the Ethics Centre, which presents the Festival of Dangerous Ideas, said Home Affairs was seeking, at “the last minute”, a US Police and FBI check “where no offence has ever been committed”.
“It would seem that the sole reason for the department seeking a police and FBI clearance has been the open declaration of a conviction for a ‘crime’ that all the world knows to be bogus and politically motivated by an authoritarian regime determined to silence its critics — by any means,” he said.
“Perhaps the most perverse aspect of this decision lies in the fact that Masha Gessen’s criticism of Russia directly reflects the formal position of both the Australian and US governments.”
The excuse proffered was beyond the risible ...
...Crikey asked Home Affairs whether it viewed convictions like the one handed down for Gessen in Moscow as part of a credible process. We were told that “for privacy reasons, the department cannot comment on individual cases, so unfortunately we can’t be of any further assistance on this matter”.
To be fair, the ABC also made note of the fuss in Journalist Masha Gessen, charged by Russian government with misinformation, 'functionally denied' Australian visa.
And the Graudian picked up on it too in Writer and Russia critic Masha Gessen claims Australia has ‘functionally denied’ them a visa.
A paranoid mind might think it had something to do with Gessen and their opinions - last week, for example, in the NY Times under Kamala Harris Is Speaking. Is She Listening?(paywall).
Inter alia ...
Most Democratic voters, even most voters who care about Israel-Palestine, can probably see themselves voting for Harris, knowing that her administration will not bring immediate relief to the Palestinian people, because they also know that on this and other issues, a Harris administration will be better than a Trump one. But some voters are like Rafsky: They cannot stand to live in a world in which Joe Biden’s vice president, who has not voiced any disagreement with the administration’s Middle East policies, wins the presidency. It’s not that they want Trump to win; it’s that the level of political cynicism they are being asked to adopt feels unbearable.
These voters are not choosing between Harris and Trump. They are choosing between their sense of themselves as moral beings if they vote for Harris and their sense of themselves if they vote for a third-party candidate or for no one at all. Some of them were among the more than 100,000 people who voted “uncommitted” in Michigan’s Democratic primary in February to send a message of opposition to Biden’s support for Israel.
If they vote for Harris in November, what will that say to the people of Gaza — that they’d held their noses while people died? What will they tell their children — that politics is the game of the possible, and sometimes it’s just not possible to stop a genocide? What will they tell themselves to be able to sleep at night?
For these voters, the psychic price of voting for Harris — of voting at all — is extremely high. It is possible that they could be convinced to pay this price, because, of course, they know, just as I do, that a Harris Middle East policy would be infinitely preferable to a Trump one. But they have to be convinced, not dismissed.
Harris has to acknowledge their existential pain, the unbearable burden of living, in some cases, with the daily fear for loved ones, their sense of alienation from a world that seems indifferent to 2,000-pound bombs and to the infliction of starvation. For a campaign that has started positioning itself as caring, humanistic and kind, the failure to acknowledge this pain and this fear is especially jarring.
UPDATE: so the heat paid off, though it should never have got near the kitchen, Russian dissident writer Masha Gessen granted last-minute visa.
So who do they let into the country, and who turns up at the top of the reptile commentary column slag heap?
A certain Coleman Hughes.
The pond resisted the temptation to reach for that whip.
Instead the pond went off to do a little research, and though not normally a Redditer, chanced on a subreddit Decoding the Gurus, with a thread asking the question What’s Up With the Coleman Hughes Phenomenon?
There were many answers, including this one ...
I've never actually read or heard anything of his that I found compelling or interesting, and it's not like I'm someone who's woke and automatically hates anyone who isn't towing some line. He's just boring and predictable. I can predict with 99% accuracy what his position on any given subject will be, and can also tell that his arguments typically get supported by a Google search of "Why is X right or wrong" (depending on what he's talking about).
I personally don't understand the appeal of him, but I do understand why he's appealing to so many other people. He basically provides a kind of inoculation for anti-woke people who don't want to appear racist or whatever. He's black. He says the things they want to hear, and he superficially does research to support those views, and by extension his fans.
Ah, he's a relatively newly minted guru, who's lurched in the direction of RFK Jr., and is anti-woke and scored points on the matter of George Floyd ...
I’m gonna make this really simple and tell you he’s one of the few black people alive who agree with Sam Harris about race. Of course Sam Harris is absolutely right about everything and that’s why he can talk for 20 minutes at a time nonstop. It’s a gift only people who are absolutely correct have.
Some got a bit longer ...
He’s a conservative who doesn’t like to called a conservative (nothing wrong with being conservative btw, but obtusely repeating how you’re not a conservative when you are is so annoying lol). Also, the RFK Jr thing is real (it’s from JRE). I’m a liberal and I’m not afraid to call myself a liberal, because I’m a liberal.
Some provided links to Substack arguments that raged deep into the night, as here and here.
And then came the killer blow to the pond's buttocks ...
Right wing media network is fantastic at boosting whatever and whoever helps their cause. It’s a narcissistic grifter’s paradise really.
Did the pond have to relive the whole Jordan Peterson reptile grift phenomenon again? Coleman Hughes had landed on the lizard Oz grift?
By the time the pond had finished the extensive Reddit read, the pond had quite forgot about the entire point of the exercise, and that certain Coleman Hughes, and had moved on ...
It was time to take down the usual Tuesday whip, applied with a firm hand, enough to bring marks and leave bruises, but not to draw too much blood ... it was time for the Groaning, and Madame Lash herself was standing by ...
"...why the government shouldn't do a tad more to help kids from disadvantaged backgrounds?" The thing is, I was taught that in a democracy we have a 'government of the people, by the people and for the people', so really when "the government" does something, it's actually "the people" doing something, isn't it ? Do we think the Groany even vaguely understands that ?
ReplyDeleteBut then there's this bit about "only 23 are from low-income families" - in short, 23%. So what is the Groany saying, that there's a lot more than 23% of "low-income families in Australia" ? Why are "we the people" allowing that to happen ? Haven't we supposedly abolished poverty in this well-to-do democracy ?
The WORDs of the Fundies.
ReplyDeletePropaganda, propagated endlessly, providing a glibal stream of agitprop to prozletize under rhe fuise of nUz... I can't call it its proper word.
Dot said... "Yep, the reptiles used those words to remind us we're dealing with a fundamentalist Catholic bigot ..."
Fundamentalist Catholic bigots initiated the WORD, and propogatated agitpop of the sky fairies WORD, now the raison d'être of Ol Rupe, inhabiting the newscorpse scribblers of this and every other day.
The WORD is;
propaganda (n.)
"1718, "committee of cardinals in charge of foreign missions of the Catholic Church," short for Congregatio de Propaganda Fide "congregation for propagating the faith," a committee of cardinals established 1622 by Gregory XV to supervise foreign missions. The word is properly the ablative fem. gerundive of Latin propagare "set forward, extend, spread, increase" (see propagation).
"Hence, "any movement or organization to propagate some practice or ideology" (1790). The modern political sense ("dissemination of information intended to promote a political point of view") dates from World War I, not originally pejorative and implying bias or deliberate misleading. Meaning "material or information propagated to advance a cause, etc." is from 1929. Related: Propagandic.
also from 1718"
Entries linking to propaganda
propagation (n.)
"mid-15c., propagacioun, "the causing of plants or animals to reproduce; reproduction; act or fact of begetting or being begotten," from Old French propagacion "offshoot, offspring" (13c.) and directly from Latin propagationem (nominative propagatio) "a propagation, extension, enlargement," noun of action from past-participle stem of propagare "set forward, extend, spread, increase; multiply plants by layers, breed," from propago (genitive propaginis) "that which propagates, offspring," from pro "forth" (see pro-) + -pag, from PIE root *pag- "to fasten," source of pangere "to fasten" (see pact). Sense of "spreading, diffusion, extension" (of light, sound, etc.) is from 1650s."
agitprop (n.)
"also agit-prop, "political propaganda in the arts or literature," 1938, from Russian agitatsiya "agitation" (from French agitation; see agitation) + propaganda (see propaganda), a word Russian got from German."
https://www.etymonline.com/word/propaganda
Play Renfield Spotto!
DeleteCorporate Bullshit Propganda stages...
"What's more, we keep falling for it. Every time we try to have nice things, our bosses – and their well-paid Renfields – dust off their talking points from the last go-round, do a little madlibs-style search and replace, and bust it out again.
It's a four-stage plan:
I. First, insist that there is no problem.
"Enslaved people are actually happy. Smoking doesn't cause cancer. Higher CO2 levels are imaginary and they're caused by sunspots and they're good for crop yields. The hole in the ozone layer is only a problem if you foolishly decide to hang around outside (this is real!).
II. OK, there's a problem, but it's your fault.
"An epidemic of on-the-job maimings is actually an epidemic of sloppy workers. A gigantic housing crash is really a gigantic cohort of greedy, feckless borrowers. Rampant price gouging is actually a problem of too much "spending power" (that is, "money") in the hands of working people.
III. Any attempt to fix this will make it worse.
"Equal wages for equal work will cause bosses to fire women and people of color. Protecting people with disabilities will cause bosses to fire disable people. Minimum wages will cause bosses to buy machines and fire "unskilled" workers. Gun control will only increase underground gun sales. Banning carcinogenic pesticides will end agriculture as we know and we'll all starve to death.
IV. This is socialism.
"Income tax is socialism. Estate tax is socialism. Medicare and Medicaid are socialism. Food stamps are socialism. Child labor laws are socialism. Public education is socialism. The National Labor Relations Act is socialism. Unions are socialism. Social security is socialism. The Fair Labor Standards Act is socialism. Obamacare is socialism. The Civil Rights Act is socialism. The Occupational Health and Safety Act is socialism. The Family Medical Leave Act is socialism. FDR is a socialist. JFK is a socialist. Lyndon Johnson is a socialist. Carter is a socialist. Clinton is a socialist. Obama is a socialist. Biden is a socialist (Biden: "I beat the socialist. That's how I got the nomination").
"Though this playbook has been in existence since the nation's founding, the authors point out that from the New Deal until the Reagan era, it didn't get much traction. But starting in the Reagan years, the well-funded network of billionaire-backed think-tanks, endowed economics chairs, and latter-day propaganda vehicles like Prageru breathed new life into these tactics.
"We can see this playing out right now as the corporate world scrambles for a response to the Harris campaign's proposal to address price-gouging.
...
https://pluralistic.net/2024/08/19/apologetics-spotters-guide/#narratives
Not that I'm going to bother actually listening to the sermon about women's age at death, but I am intrigued by the thought that somehow the sexuality of every dead women has been determined to allow for that conclusion about their age at death.
DeleteDo women have to put a 'preferred sexuality in life' entry on their death certificates now ?
!"This story discusses threats of violence and contains a racial slur."
ReplyDeleteDutton newscorpse et al are fomenting formation of....
'Armed and Underground: Inside the Turbulent, Secret World of an American Militia'
by Joshua Kaplan
https://www.propublica.org/article/insde-secret-ap3-militia-american-patriots-three-percent
ReplyDeleteOf course if you don't take Groany's word for it, and look at what Heckman says, you get
"The highest rate of return in early childhood development comes from investing as early as possible, from birth through age five, in disadvantaged families. Starting at age three or four is too little too late"
and
"Make greater investments in young children to see greater returns in education, health and productivity.
Keep these principles in mind to make efficient and effective public investments that reduce deficits and strengthen the economy:
Investing in early childhood education is a cost-effective strategy...
Prioritize investment in quality early childhood education for at-risk children... Without resources such as “parent-coaching” and early childhood education programs, many at-risk children miss the developmental growth that is the foundation for success. They will suffer for the rest of their lives—and all of us will pay the price in higher social costs and declining economic fortunes."
https://heckmanequation.org/resource/invest-in-early-childhood-development-reduce-deficits-strengthen-the-economy/
Let me repeat one line: " Make greater investments in young children to see greater returns in education, health and productivity."
And if you are concerned that the rich would benefit (and why would you be, we all know that they are rich because they are smart and work hard and deserve everything they get), maybe you could tax them more.
Now if we take all that 'start early or suffer' type preaching, we'd have to ask just how soon we have to start: is more than 5 minutes after birth too late ?
DeleteMakes me wonder just how we managed to advance up to our 'modern' state - how did we survive and then thrive with so many severely undereducated citizens ?
And it makes me just wonder a whole lot about what we did for the very nearly 190,000 years of homo sapiens sapiens existence until the 1900s. How did we ever advance ?
Joe - Our Dame Groan, with her usual lack of self-awareness, seems to make a good choice in James Heckman to offer, yes - obvious point - that institutional childcare can be of benefit to those who come from disadvantaged backgrounds.
DeleteHeckman does qualify as an economist of note, because he is one of the recipients of what was then called the Bank of Sweden Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel. Wisely, she pointed our attention to his work on the effects of institutional childcare, rather than what gained him the ‘Nobel’ award, which was to do with selection bias in social sciences. Something which the Dame, and that master sociologist, the Cater, no doubt have spent many hours working through.
Our Dame offers ‘My strong advice’ to the Albanese government, which ‘is don’t do it.’ Why she thinks anyone in that government would be moved by her advice, however strongly it might be worded, is a mystery. It does seem odd that, in her selection of talking points (definitely not chosen at random) she goes from pointing out that ‘middle class’ families will do very well out of the proposed subsidies, then draws our attention to the ‘interesting‘ fact that most of this childcare is provided by the private sector. Is she casting shade on the private sector, which, hitherto, she has told us is always better at everything than the public sector, and waaay better at productivity.
Oh - productivity - his correspondent cannot offer any insight into her comment that this scheme would ‘almost certainly’ have a negative effect on productivity ‘as the most productive workers are already working long hours.’
Overall, it seems the Dame has waded into an issue, but found that it points up fundamental problems in the way our entire economy now operates. She cannot admit anything about those problems in what will appear in the Flagship, so resorts to conclusions that come ‘almost certainly’, from - who knows where? - that tell us to do nothing.
Always so, so many reasons for doing nothing.
DeleteYes, well said Anony. Anything that gets done is more likely to fail than ever to succeed, so masterly inaction is the best way.
DeleteAs to Groany, well "productivity" is just one of those holy incantations that 'economists' of the likes of Dame Groan invoke at any opportunity to confuse her unlettered audience (if she actually has one outside of the Pond).
GB and Anonymous - our Dame did draw a 'nice little earner' (to quote that great economist, Arfur Daley) simply from muttering 'productivity, productivity' for several years, while otherwise following the wisdom of Charles Dudley Warner (another quote coming up, and not from Mark Twain, to whom it is often attributed) 'concerning New-England weather – it is a matter about which a great deal is said, but very little done.'
DeleteOur Dame yesterday dropped the random comment ' the most productive workers are already working long hours.’ Seems in her time on the Productivity Commission she did not absorb the simple principle that productivity is improved by working smarter, not necessarily longer. So we gained little from her several years of Government stipend there.
DP. Tomorrow please review Katters sermon to parliament.
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