Saturday, March 18, 2023

In which the pond does extremely hard yards with a trifecta of the dog botherer, the bromancer and nattering "Ned" ....

 



Saturdays have begun to feel like the inn of the damned - at least if keeping company with reptiles is your choice, not bad Australian movies - and the pond has no desire to compound the problem by straying off into Dame Slap territory ...




 



The habit of certain people leaking like a sieve to the reptiles - and Dame Slap's obsessive compulsive desire to scribble about it - is no doubt rich fodder for Freudians in the house, but if you must, you can try this headline ...




And then you can ignore the Nine papers and head off to the Graudian to read Bruce Lehrmann asked friends ‘got any gear’ on day rape allegations reported, messages tendered in court reveal.

And that's as much as the pond will do for the Freudians, before turning to John Quiggin in The Conversation, and $18 million a job? The AUKUS subs plan will cost Australia way more than that .

Aside from the costing, which will surely blow out (if it ever gets started) in the massive way pork barreling always does, there was this ...

The case for such a massive investment in submarines has proved hard to make in a simple and convincing way. The “Red Alert” articles published this month by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age has helped to raise alarm about China. But the warning Australia could find itself at war with China in the next few years (over Taiwan) isn’t a persuasive argument for submarines that won’t be delivered until the 2030s.
Other questions have emerged.
In different ways, former prime ministers Paul Keating and Malcolm Turnbull have questioned the sense of a renewed alliance with the United Kingdom. The UK in a state of obvious decline, and Labour leader Keir Starmer, likely to be Britain’s next prime minister, has been noticeably lukewarm in his support for AUKUS, saying: “Whatever the merits of an Indo-Pacific tilt, maintaining security in Europe must remain our primary objective.”

And so on and so forth, and Michelle Grattan thought that the French clock lover might be on to something but shouldn't be so sharp-tongued, Keating could be right about AUKUS, but gratuitous insults are an ugly look, (you can find it in The Conversation) and even the oscillating fan had doubts ...





...while that warmongering toad, Peter Hartcher, continued to preen and primp and even played the "disloyalty" card ... so no link for him ...

And now it's on to the usual pack, because if not the inn of the damned, then certainly the hotel in The Shining, and even as NIMBYISM already begins to spread about which part of the country will turn into a nuclear waste dump, the dog botherer does a classic misread and gets all the cues wrong ... so obsessed is he with climate science, and nuking the country as the solution, even though there's nothing wrong with the climate in the dog botherer's alternative reality ...






Naturally the reptiles went with a dog botherer dreaming image to kick things off, an artist's impression of a small modular nuclear reactor, which is about all that can be offered ... an artist's impression ...






Once again the pond is left to wonder why the dog botherer cares about the emitting of greenhouse gases, since in his alternative reality world, climate science isn't a thing, but then the pond got distracted by an idyllic snap the reptiles inserted at this point...






In typical reptile fashion, there was nothing to identify the image or the source, so here you go ...







Yes, just another cheap-arsed offering from an image bank. What a wretched graphics department it's become ...

Now back to the dog botherer and no complaining, because the pond warned at the get go it would be a slog ...






Note the way that the dog botherer clings to a single costing, though anybody who cared could find alternative figures ... but as the dog botherer happened to mention Hinkley, mentioned here ...

Case study: Hinkley Nuclear Power Station, United Kingdom
When this project was first being promoted, the CEO of British energy company EDF Vincent de Rivaz predicted that the Hinkley C nuclear power station could be switched on in 2017. It is currently slated to open in June 2026, almost a decade late even if this extended deadline is met.
Around the same time, the UK government priced the project at 4 billion UK pounds. It is now expected to cost between £22bn and £23bn. 
The price for Hinkley’s electricity was fixed in a so-called “strike price” at £92 per megawatt-hour, rising with inflation. This won’t rise, even though the costs of building the project have gone up. However, that is still expensive energy when the latest offshore UK wind farms have agreed to strike prices of less than half that (around £40 per megawatt-hour).
Read more: BBC News 

Enough already, the pond expects correspondents to do a little of the hard yards as the dog botherer begins to wind down ...






And yet in the dog botherer world, climate science is an irrelevant fraud, and yet somehow he's obsessed with nuking the country ...




Meanwhile, a cartoon from Kudelka ...






To mix metaphors, that Godzilla put the cat among the pigeons, and it sent the bromancer off on a long listicle-laden howl, which added to the pond's Saturday woes ...





Oh sheesh, not our core national identity, with the curious over-ride, "in today's circumstances." Did the bromancer suddenly turn existential relativist?

Yep, already the pond is deeply bored, and we haven't even got on to the listicle or to the ominous braying of "Ned",  somewhere over the horizon but coming this way like a sub-destroying missile...






Oh fucketty fuck, at last the listicle, dubbed emerging AUKUS myths, and at this point some might feel the need for more Quiggin, 'Red Alert' is a paper tiger, or just tweeting, or perhaps re-tweeting about a real newspaper ...















But never mind all that, on with the listicle ...






Up against the bromancer and his listicle myths, it's easy to see why Twitter can become addictive ... while chasing that Quiggin tweet linking to a story in The Conversation, Progress in detection tech could render submarines useless by the 2050s. What does it mean for the AUKUS pact? , the pond came across this re-tweet ...







So it's true ... that pompous prat is a completely humourless self-important clod ... and completely clueless to boot ... but meanwhile onwards rolls the bromancer ... an intrepid sailor never home from the sea, a valiant wolf warrior hunter never home from the hill ...

And as for that talk of becoming obsolete? Everybody's building obsolete, so why not us? If everybody's putting useless trinkets at the bottom of their Xmas stockings, then we should stock up too (and make China richer while littering the planet) ...







Now anyone thinking that in the last par, the bromancer is admitting that he's completely clueless as to the cost, please remember that being clueless is an important part of the art of being an armchair admiral ...





So the coalition inflated the costs out of a sense of self-importance, yet even secondhand subs are bloody expensive? Even worse than the current used car market?

Never mind, the pond reached the end at last ...





Did the bromancer mention sovereignty? Fortunately there was an infallible Pope to hand addressing that issue from a serious newspaper with ambitions of breaking out of its local rag status ...






And so to "Ned", and the pond only does this because it's the pond's dooty, and because when anyone asks if there's anyone more pompous and asinine than a good Hartchering, the pond is always happy to offer a "Nedding" ... so much braying, and over so many gobbets ...






Here's the pond's theory. If it does the heavy lifting with "Ned" today, why tomorrow's Sunday meditation can be a doddle in the park.

Sure it might mean asking how things are going in the US ...






And so on and so forth, and what's this, Chairman Rupert backing a full on isolationist and Putin appeaser?

Well that should work out well ...










And there's your choice - Trump heavy with the man from Florida, or Trump extra heavy with the man from Florida - and least if if you happen to be Chairman Rupert and wanting your tax breaks and all the other GOP benefits, and all this will be coming to a head in 2024, and the reptiles down under remain oblivious ... and most oblivious of all is "Ned" ...






Talk about a deal, and all the pond worries about is whether they come with the Trucoat ...

[Jerry and an irate customer argue over a sealant that the customer had previously indicated he didn't want, after Jerry has gone off to pretend to talk to his boss] 
Jerry Lundegaard : Well, we've never done this before. But seeing as it's special circumstances and all, he says I can knock a hundred dollars off that Trucoat.
Irate Customer : [stunned that Jerry still intends to charge him for something he didn't order]  One hundred... You lied to me, Mr. Lundegaard. You're a bald-faced liar. A... fucking liar.
Irate Customer : [to his wife, frustrated]  Where's my goddamn checkbook? Let's get this over with.

Ah, "Ned's" got out his chequebook ...






Another classic fudge. Not just from the bromancer, but "Ned" too, guessing that maybe it's just all guesswork, though there's no guessing where things have been in the past ...

Australian governments have a long and generally dismal history of using defence procurement, and particularly naval procurement, as a form of industry policy.
Examples including the Collins-class submarines, Hobart-class air warfare destroyers and, most recently, the Hunter-class “Future Frigates”.
The stated goal is to build a defence-based manufacturing industry. But there is also a large element of old-fashioned pork-barrelling involved.
In particular, South Australia has nursed grievances over the shutdown of local car making, centred in the state, following the withdrawal of federal government subsidies. The closure of the Osborne Naval Shipyard in north Adelaide would be politically “courageous” for any government.
So the projects roll on, despite technical problems (the six Collins-class subs were plagued by problems with their noise signature, propulsion and combat systems) and cost overruns (the three Hobart destroyers cost $1.4 billion more than the $8 billion budgeted). The $35 billion plan for nine Hunter-class frigates may yet be abandoned given budget constraints. 

And so on and so forth, but the pond has been there before, and provided a link to the Quiggin, and still "Ned" natters on ...







Phew that's a relief, "Ned's" got our chequebook, and is splashing the cash in the US, and rest assured, there'll be no backsliding from Chairman Rupert's pick in a few years time ...










The pond can't say it's been fun, but there's a final gobbet before the immortal Rowe has a final word ...






Yes, indeedy do, the US has a long history as a European power, and that history has a DeSantis future to run ... and as for the Pacific, good luck with that ...

And so to the immortal Rowe of the day doing some poll dancing ...







It's all in the detail, 'Gong lovers ...







13 comments:

  1. "Dame Slap's obsessive compulsive desire..." But we gotta admit that this time - breaking the habits of a lifetime - that Slappy actually admitted that there was a need for "protecting the rights of victims of alleged sexual assault", no matter how trivial she considers such "rights" to be.

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  2. Ok, so Starmer gives us: "Whatever the merits of an Indo-Pacific tilt, maintaining security in Europe must remain our primary objective." Takes us right back to 1939, doesn't it, when the USA was only too happy to stay out of the business of "maintaining security in Europe" and that worked out really well, didn't it. Back then many Americans were like Sanctimonius: don't get involved in a minor "territorial dispute".

    But the question is: what is Europe ? Does it include all the eastern european states that Russia took in WWII ? Like Poland, Hungary , (East) Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Romania and the nations that were once Yugoslavia etc ? Or doesn't it ? And if it does how exactly is Starmer proposing to maintain the security of Europe ?

    Like maybe HMS Queen Elizabeth going on a world tour ?

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  3. The nuclear waste disposal strawperson is the biggest furphy ever. Nuclear power unit sealed and operational for 30yrs. De-fueling in US due to 'secrets'! Just billion dollar coffins. Commission of Inquiry not until all these sprukers dead - say 2060.

    Quiggin has been trashing nuclear arguments since forever.

    Best quote (and challenge) by Quiggin in 2019:
    "nothing remotely like this will happen. It’s rather more likely that Barnaby and the committee will discover a working technology for cold fusion, based on harnessing unicorns."
    "No takers for a nuclear grand bargain"
    https://johnquiggin.com/2019/12/14/no-takers-for-a-nuclear-grand-bargain/

    And add +10yrs now due to duopoly vote decline + green teals + younger voters;
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/16/the-idea-of-producing-nuclear-energy-in-australia-before-2040-is-absurd

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  4. "the pond expects correspondents to do a little of the hard yards as the dog botherer begins to wind down ...". Dunno that there's really much point - everything that Doggy Bov has said he has said before, and every repeated lie he tells has been repeatedy refudiated [tm Sarah Palin].

    He advocates 'Small Modular Reactors' that in reality are neither small, nor modular, nor quick to build nor cheap to operate and there won't be any in real operation anywhere (except that strange one on a ship in Russia) anywhere in the world for years yet.

    And he never, ever mentions his own home state. Even nearly two years ago, SA was on the renewables go:
    "South Australia is at the vanguard of the global energy transition, having transformed its energy system from 1% to over 70% renewable energy in just over 16 years."
    Leading the green economy
    https://www.energymining.sa.gov.au/industry/modern-energy/leading-the-green-economy

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    1. Although, GB, this very day our Doggy Bov has managed (?) to misunderstand what Donald Horne was writing about, as in ‘we seem determined to prove Donald Horne wrong by vandalising all our good fortune.’

      Prove Donald Horne wrong? The ‘Wiki’, conveniently (even for a time-poor contributor to the rigging of the flagship) gives Horne’s own summing-up. Worth quoting in full, if I may, because it should not be beyond the faculties even of a Dog Bovverer.

      “Australia is a lucky country run mainly by second rate people who share its luck. It lives on other people’s ideas, and, although its ordinary people are adaptable, most of its leaders (in all fields) so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise.”

      The ‘Wiki’ also gives a recent (2005) comment from Horne, that he ‘had to sit through the most appalling rubbish as successive generations misapplied this phrase.’ Enter Doggy Bov, stage right.

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    2. Doggy Bov has fallen for the two card trick. That's why he's there really isn't it?

      Horne uses a term ironically, the Doggy Bov AI generator misses the irony by a fair country mile. A salutary lesson in being careful when letting computers create content.

      Does it undermine Doggy Bov's central thesis? I seriously doubt anyone in the lucky country cares a jot.

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    3. As is usual with many such comments, Horne is maybe half-right: "it lives on other people's ideas". But doesn't everybody ? Except for a briefish period in the flowering of the Industrial Revolution when England led the world. And maybe even for some periods of time elsewhere (Egypt, China, Persia etc.).

      But as for the (lack of) curiousity of "its leaders", well that's been the way throughout all of documented human history, hasn't it. There's not a single revolution, or even a significant change, that would have occurred had the various leaders actually been "curious" enough to find out what was actually going on in their own land.

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    4. Three, two, one - bait taken

      Simon’s last update on NuScale’s trial SMR

      https://twitter.com/simonahac/status/1613586187943575552

      Precis? Not going well.

      Hinkley?

      https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/cost-edfs-new-uk-nuclear-project-soars-40-bln-2023-02-20/

      Ouch!

      Interesting that DB identifies baseload, as the term was originally used, as a problem but suggests hydrogen production as a solution. Obviously wouldn’t be a workaround for solar when supply exceeds demand though?

      Just scrolling through the old talking points. The only interesting thing is that they are getting more wrong with time (that seems logically wrong, but there you have it)

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    5. via collins - reptiles, irony?? I suppose we can live in hope.

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  5. The Bro: "We desperately need nuclear powered submarines..." and that is why we're going a long, slow way to get them so that any need for them will have long passed and we'll already be in the 2+degC climate heating period.

    So: "Australia's AUKUS nuclear-powered submarine deal, conceived by Scott Morrison..." And, as it has been clearly queried, why would anybody trust a Scott Morrison idea ? Do you ?

    Ok, then: "Nuclear subs will not only empower and enable Australia - they will subject us to a searching, national interrogation.
    Can we defend ourselves ?
    "

    Answer: against Vanuatu maybe, but against any "major power", no. And that's all there is too it, yes ?

    Well, I guess that's the Bro's 'Pink Alert' because, after all, we're completely safe now, aren't we ? And hey, what about this: "The basic decision to continue with AUKUS required from Albanese a rare mixture of pragmatism and courage, a combination that recalls John Howard." Sure it does, but here's a few things:
    Pragmatism: how we bumble along hoping for the best - or at least not the worst - when we don't have any real idea of what's going on and what to do about it.
    Courage: the act of continuing to bumble along when you have no idea what to do about anything.

    Yep, that's clearly a combination that "recalls" John Howard.

    Yeah but it's great to have somebody certified by Newsguard as working for a news publication that: gathers and presents information responsibly, regularly corrects errors, handles differences between news and opinion responsibly, avoids deceptive headlines and clearly discloses ownership. 100/100 for The Australian.

    Anyway, the Bro reckons that: "The Albanese government, especially Marles, will need to lead a sustained nationwide effort to make the nuclear subs a reality." And that's why, thankfully, they never will be. But hey: "every serious navy in the world, including the US and China, is investing heavily in building submarines. Look not at what pundits say but what world-leading militaries do." Why, they re-fight the last war and they have done that for a very long time. And they are doing it again. So just as well that we don't have to listen to the "pundit Bromancer", isn't it.

    So, is that what the Bro and the Australian would call "handles differences between news and opinion responsibly" ?

    But hey, isn't it good to see that Bro Sheridan has a mission in life again ?

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    1. Every serious navy in the world was building battleships until 1942, then no one ever built one again. Looking back through the literature, naval aviation had it’s advocates but they tended to be talked down by armchair warriors fighting the last war (even in the previous war submarines and smaller torpedo carrying vessels resulted in reluctance to commit capital ships)

      As usual, there is always a great deal of uncertainty but the Bros of this world pompously claim to have the facts. His list of myths look likely to be facts and his facts look like myths. This all looks like a big liability for Labor and will get worse with time. My, not so exhaustive, survey of gym and coffee shop suggests folks can see through the bullshit - the headline number kinda caught there attention.

      Anyway, I was encouraged by the notion that this might all fall through if not managed properly. You can always rely on incompetence to save you.

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    2. It's not 'battleships' these days, Bef, it's those wonders of modern naval times, aircraft carriers. Now what exactly the UK needs a couple of very large, very expensive, very failure prone aircraft carriers for utterly escapes my understanding. Where will the UK ever use them in conflict (aka 'a war').

      But here's just a bit about them:
      "They are the largest and most expensive British warships ever made. Their flight decks are larger than three football pitches and they can embark scores of stealth fighter jets and helicopters. While HMS Queen Elizabeth has proved a strategic asset, HMS Prince of Wales has been beset by problems."

      "Strategic asset" ? Hmm, imperial daydreams die hard, don't they.
      Royal Navy faces multi-million pound bill to fix carrier which broke down after leaving harbour
      https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/uknews/royal-navy-faces-multi-million-pound-bill-to-fix-carrier-which-broke-down-after-leaving-harbour/ar-AA18M5js?

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  6. Well after all of that, how can one waste time with Nutter Ned ? Just on this, I think: "Australia must entrench political bipartisanship for the project and Labor must commit for years to the most substantial industrial project in our history."

    Really ? Labor must somehow impose "bipartisanship" on Mutt Dutt's LNP ? Sure, right, not a problem. But "commit for years" ? Labor will only be in government for just a very few years. By the next election in about 2 years, the Australian people will have gone back to believing LNP bullshit and Labor will be out of office for a decade again.

    So it goes. But wait:
    "Can we expect the Peter Dutton-led opposition that backs the project to intensify its economic attack on the government ? Yes." Oh yeah, that's rampant bipartisanship, isn't it. As only Noodlenuts Ned fully understands it.

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