How did it become the norm?
Well Crikey asked the question and provided some examples, but the truth is, for the reptiles it's like their daily bread …
A slaughter in Christchurch? The reptiles can handle that - nothing to do with them, it's all the fault of their digital rivals - and chew climate science denialist gum at the same time …
Well Crikey asked the question and provided some examples, but the truth is, for the reptiles it's like their daily bread …
A slaughter in Christchurch? The reptiles can handle that - nothing to do with them, it's all the fault of their digital rivals - and chew climate science denialist gum at the same time …
Whoa, Lloydie using the reptiles' favourite cliché for the zillionth time? And Barners out and about? We've got some live ones here …
First to Barners, and is it just the pond, or is Barners now sounding more barking mad than ever in his desperate desire to attract attention as his career wanes?
More of the usual guff, how it's just a debate with good people on both sides, and blather about national nihilism.
Who wouldn't trust a ten year old more than Barners?
But poor old Barners didn't even make it on to the Crikey list of naughty contributors to reptile la la land denialism …
Who wouldn't trust a ten year old more than Barners?
But poor old Barners didn't even make it on to the Crikey list of naughty contributors to reptile la la land denialism …
Good old Lloydie, what a champion … but first we must finish with Barners … reaching peak form of rhetorical idiocy, with flourishes and tics only a Barners could manage …
The pond loves the way Barners flings words around and lets them rub and jostle against each other, producing a certain atonal quality of hysterical nonsensicality … not least that Barners should imagine he's Ernst Toller.
Take any example you like:
Take any example you like:
"… we are living in an indolent space in the security of a calm autumn"
"It is a space before the epiphany that liberal law and order is passing into a new epoch of market-driven totalitarianism."
No ten year old would present that sort of gibberish to a teacher for fear of the reaction they would get. It's a kind of ostentatious try hardism, where verbal peacock display is an erratic substitute for making sense. It's a loon in love with his words ... and it left the pond mourning the way it had already used a Kudelka cartoon to irritate the reptiles …
Oh well, no harm done, because in this survey of climate science denialism, amazingly, Lloydie, for all his inclination to blather, was remarkably short … proving that once the lad had got beyond idle chatter about "virtue signalling," he didn't have many virtuous insights to put on parade …
Not one of the lad's better efforts, but he's been enshrined in the Crikey hall of reptile climate denialist fame, so why should he try too hard? (You'll have to subscribe to Crikey to get the hot links):
And here the pond must have a little snark with Crikey's list.
No Moorice, the world's greatest climate scientist? And what of Dame Groan? She's always hard at work, and is at it again today …
No Moorice, the world's greatest climate scientist? And what of Dame Groan? She's always hard at work, and is at it again today …
It's true that sometimes Dame Groan can be a tad deceptive, but once you understand that she's a climate science denialist down to the bone, everything she scribbles can be seen in the right light.
The Groaner will offer many reasons for hating on the RBA, but eventually she'll get around to the real reason … she hates anyone taking climate science seriously, with the only upside being that it allows her to indulge in some routine climate science denialism …
The Groaner will offer many reasons for hating on the RBA, but eventually she'll get around to the real reason … she hates anyone taking climate science seriously, with the only upside being that it allows her to indulge in some routine climate science denialism …
You see? The point is that they're climate change heretics, but Dame Groan must do them slowly and mock them grandly … and yet when you get to the end of that Crikey list, where is Dame Groan?
It's fair to say that climate science denialism so riddles the lizard Oz that no survey could contain the multitudes … and yet it really is unfair to Dame Groan, considering her most excellent work in recent years …
See, she was just starting to get warmed up with her RBA bashing … now it's on to the denialism ...
You see Crikey, it's all under control … no reason to do anything to fix a minor problem … if it's a problem at all …
It's completely manageable, and what a disgrace Crikey didn't honour the Groaner for her singularly exceptional contributions ...
It's completely manageable, and what a disgrace Crikey didn't honour the Groaner for her singularly exceptional contributions ...
Strange that Dame Groan never gets around to all the generous subsidies that have been provided to coal over the years, but that's the reptile way when it comes to climate science denialism. Deny it's a problem, dump on renewables, and remember that dinkum true blue clean Oz coal is the solution …
There's a certain bitterness to Dame Groan's climate science denialist bile. Could it be that she resents being overlooked by Crikey, with glamour puss Lloydie taking all the glory?
And so to a follow-up to yesterday's reptile display of hypocrisy …
Those who checked out Media Watch would have seen that Dame Slap copped a mention (see here) …
Those who checked out Media Watch would have seen that Dame Slap copped a mention (see here) …
Yes, the Dame's urgent plea to be allowed to go on bashing Muslims in the name of debate and both siderism still echoes in reptile la la land …
And so they've all been out and about in their own appalling ways … including the mutton Dutton, oozing hypocrisy … and with the reptiles sounding exceedingly defensive, and given their record, why wouldn't they?
And so they've all been out and about in their own appalling ways … including the mutton Dutton, oozing hypocrisy … and with the reptiles sounding exceedingly defensive, and given their record, why wouldn't they?
You see Crikey did another list …and the pond only breaks their paywall to encourage them to do more reptile studies … (and you'll need to subscribe to get the hot links) ...
And that's why it's worth cutting and pasting a little bit of the lizard Oz editorial this day, full of crocodile tears and rampant hypocrisy …
The reptiles deplore tribalism? But that's their business model ...
It's as if the reptiles had visited the land above the faraway tree, called "the land of forget with no regrets" …
It's as if the reptiles had visited the land above the faraway tree, called "the land of forget with no regrets" …
Yes, it's not just News Corp, and wouldn't you know it, Channel Seven says Pauline Hanson still welcome after Koch Christchurch accusation …
And why?
Well as the Donald knows, there are good people on both sides, and ratings to consider …
“We never shy away from debates,” the executive producer, Michael Pell, told Guardian Australia. “We canvass both sides and the viewer is left to make up his or her own mind.”
And why?
Well as the Donald knows, there are good people on both sides, and ratings to consider …
“We never shy away from debates,” the executive producer, Michael Pell, told Guardian Australia. “We canvass both sides and the viewer is left to make up his or her own mind.”
Yes, we'll go on canvassing the bigots, and the bigoted can cheer them on …
...and so the science is still not settled, and Islamics are wicked, but we're striving to uphold the values of liberal democracy, while taking steps to protect our precious way of life, by standing up for our dinkum clean true blue Oz coal, knocking Islamics and keeping the hordes at bay so that we can remain a white Australia ...
Or something like that. Is there a line?
Apparently not ….
And so to a reader contribution … with the pond wondering whether it should support egging …
...and so the science is still not settled, and Islamics are wicked, but we're striving to uphold the values of liberal democracy, while taking steps to protect our precious way of life, by standing up for our dinkum clean true blue Oz coal, knocking Islamics and keeping the hordes at bay so that we can remain a white Australia ...
Or something like that. Is there a line?
Apparently not ….
And so to a reader contribution … with the pond wondering whether it should support egging …
But if we take it as a mere metaphorical form of freedom of expression, because there are good people on both sides, why not keep a few eggs marked up and handy in the fridge? And then metaphorically launch them in a metaphysical way at the hypocrites ...
And besides, it helps set up the infallible Pope's cartoon of the day, with more infallible and infinitely more useful papal insights here …
Hypocrites the lot of them, but what good taste those papal chooks display ...
Ah, Barners and the Bradfield scheme - "Bradfield’s ‘hydraulic dreaming’". "the Scheme was found to be overwhelmingly expensive and unlikely to provide anywhere near as much water for irrigation as Bradfield had claimed."..."This ‘water dreaming’, as Tom Griffiths and Tim Sherratt have termed it, has led Australians to have faith that hydraulic engineering schemes will return a form of psychic income over and above any tangible commercial and economic benefits." see http://press-files.anu.edu.au/downloads/press/p118181/mobile/ch06s04.html.
ReplyDeleteBarners of course has never met a dam he didn't like, so don't tell him about the project to Restore Lake Pedder.
Well, the Bradfield Scheme is the best example of agrarian socialism to be had in Australia, and Barnyard is nothing if not an agrarian socialist. But there is a problem with the BS (apt!) that transcends mere hydrological concerns. Even if it delivered water in the quantities its boosters dream of, it is still not going to help. In extremely high temperatures, plant stomata close, and they stop photosynthesising. It doesn't matter how much water you put on them, they still won't grow - in fact, in temperature extremes their need for water in this regard drops (although we think of photosynthesis as turning CO2 into C and O2, the whole thing uses a lot of water). In the future, temperature extremes will be more damaging than rainfall deficits.
ReplyDeleteSo unless Barnyard is contemplating using the BS water to supply a million-square-kilometre Coolgardie safe, all the water in the world won't make a lick of difference.
But still, its a splendid piece Barnyard has written for his masters voice - bald-faced lies about the age, literacy, motivation and education of the protesters (all without a scrap of proof), move on to a little hyperbole (and hypocrisy - Barners schooling us on water policy, really?), a few excluded-middle fallacies, a dose of Godwin, and then "look, squirrels!"
He really runs the table, where Dame Groan's piece is just a tiresome, one-paced fib. So I just say one thing about the Groaner - Nordhaus's estimate for the "social cost of carbon" has tripled in the last decade and now sits at a level that says Gillard's carbon tax was pitched at the right level. (I expect that further revisions to the SCC estimates will show that the carbon tax was ridiculously low, but that's another story.) Any bets on Dame Groan producing an article headed something like: "Ten years on, not-actually-a-Nobel-prizewinner shows carbon tax was excellent policy?"
No, I'm not holding my breath either.
Between you and Hoe, FD, you've covered the information that the 0.0001% of the human race that is (i) intelligent and (ii) unformed would want to know. I wasn't awate of the behaviour of plants in excessive heat though ... maybe Barners was thinking of farming seaweed ?
DeleteHi FrankD,
DeleteYour explanation of the damage global warming has on photosynthesis was so well expressed and compelling that I shared it with a thick headed relation. It opened
his eyes finally, a miracle right up there with a faith healer curing a ham, as he normally conflates science with heathenism.
I hope you just don't post here in the Dorothy Dream Time but also advocate in newspapers as well, letters to the editor etc.
Anytime you want to visit the Bada Bing Bar the drinks are on me.
Re the barners phrase market driven totalitarianism isnt that "gospel" preached and promoted by all of the dreadfully sane reptilian and IPA bloviators. Pictured in this one stark image.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dartmouth.edu/~spanmod/mural/panel21.html
And described in the book by David Korten titled When Corporations Rule the World.
He's written quite a few books, it seems, and still more "in planning". But I suppose he reckons that the truth can stand a lot of repetition. Especially as he "rejects any focus on money as the purpose of economic life."
DeleteIt's hard to characterise Dame Groan's piece as anything other than confidently delivered lies. Just to pick one among many "the greater penetration of renewable energy has been clearly associated with rising wholesale prices". Well, the Oz argues that association but nearly everyone else argues the opposite.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/study-shows-impact-wind-solar-gas-power-on-electricity-prices/10590876
I don't know why it bugs me, an opinion piece in the Oz is like a message buried in a peat bog - it might prove to be of some interest if anyone is left to find it in centuries to come.
"...clearly associated with rising wholesale prices"
ReplyDeleteBef, in the herpetarium, correlation does equal causation. So it is probably apposite to look at a few other correlations.
1. Wholesale pricing ultimately depends on supply and demand. Now it's true that many factors come into play for both sides of that equation, but the body tasked with overseeing the whole is the National Energy Market, whose actions ultimately determine our power prices. And who set up the NEM? Why, two Liberal Energy Ministers, firstly energy executive, QLD Liberal president, exemplary trough-snouter and sometime houso of John Howard himself, Warwick Parer, followed by climate- (and tobacco- !) denier, and bone-fide carbuncle on the backside of humanity, Nick Minchin.
2. This market is regulated by the AER. It was the creation of Ian MacFarlane, when energy was part of the Resources portfolio, a tenure which memorably landed "Chainsaw" a very lucrative directorship five minutes after leaving parliament. MacFarlane oversaw it, but he was just implementing the recommendations of the Parer Report (see above), authored by Warwick after his conflict-of-interest-driven tenfold share portfolio growth and abuse of travel entitlements (both clearly documented, DP, so nothing untoward in reporting them) had seen him (dis-)gracefully decline to seek re-election.
Now far be it from me to point out the the NEM's "competitive" spot pricing mechanism encourages artificial shortages in supply to spike short term prices, or that the AER's regulation of the market does nothing to prevent that behaviour, or that Parer's promise of a reduction in wholesale prices in the -teens percent materialised as a substantial rise, or that areas covered by the NEM have seen prices rise at twice the rate of non-NEM regions (regardless of fossil/renewable mix), or that the regions most dependent of renewables (SA, TAS, ACT) have seen prices fall over the last four years relative to the others.
No, I wouldn't point those things out, because they are mere correlations, and unlike the reptiles, it matters to me that there be a causal link between these things, of which I am unsure.
So I'm not arguing those things. I'm just sayin'.
But, butt, FD, the Australian electorate rates the LNP as far ahead of labor in economic expertise and management of the Australian economy.
DeleteSo all that NEM and AER stuff must have been really very good for us, musn't it ? And Parer, Minchin and MacFarlane are just doing what has to be done to retain public adoration.