Monday, May 15, 2023

In which the pond confronts Monday's weary reptile predictability, and ends up with a show bag containing just the Major and the Caterist ...

 


Every so often the pond wonders why it gets stuck with its routine supply of lizard Oz regulars, which means a day like Monday - the pond doesn't like Monday, the whole day through - is filled with the likes of the Major and the Caterist.

Partly it's the fault of the reptiles at the lizard Oz. 

Look, there early in the day, the Major was at the top of the perch, along with the usual reptile alarums ...



Ah, that treaty. Likely it'll produce bankruptcy by noon tomorrow. And look, there's sinister former chairman Rudd ...

And while the pond stifled a yawn, if the pond wanted to avoid the Major, what happens when it turns to the comments section below the fold?




There's simplistic "here no conflict of interest" Simon and if you skip past him, as the pond routinely does, you straight away bump into the Caterist, yet again nuking the country ...

The pond did try something different. 

There was Lorraine Finlay, apparently unaware that she was scribbling for an organisation that on a daily basis provided sundry and assorted existential threats to truth, but it was such a tedious, dull and downright stupid piece that the pond simply couldn't muster the energy. 

How many times must George's name be taken in vain, and yet this was the closer ...

Unless we place humanity at the heart of AI, we will see the spectre of Orwell’s Ministry of Truth manifest itself across the globe – with the real risk that those who control the AI technology will end up controlling our past, our present and our future.
Lorraine Finlay is Human Rights Commissioner.

And what of the Murdochian Ministry of Truth, aka Faux Noise, the lizard Oz, assorted tabloids, so on and so forth? 

Well the pond isn't going to take George's name in vain, because often these things are self-correcting, as celebrated in John Naughton's A moment’s silence, please, for the death of Mark Zuckerberg’s metaverse

The pond can't begin to count the verbiage wasted on Meta, and now belatedly Zuck has discovered AI, and whimsically Naughton proposed a new star and an entire new series ...

...what if he now decides to bet the ranch on large language models and AI? And does so in a time when the old, profitable lines of business are beginning to flag? Suppose that, next time, the unstoppable supreme leader brings the entire edifice down? In which case, the world would finally realise that it is Zuckerberg, not Rupert Murdoch, who is the Citizen Kane de nos jours. Just think: the Zuckerberg story could fill a gap in the market: after all, Succession will soon come to an end. We just need a new Orson Welles to play the lead.

And so it goes, as existential threats to truth bite the dust on a regular basis, and if the Zuck gets into AI, he might end up doing for it what mad Uncle Elon, down from his attic, did for the twits ...

Meanwhile, the pond is stuck with the usual ...




At this point the reptiles stuck in a snap of a News Corp refugee ...






Once upon a time, back in the dim, distant past, she was a member of the pack ...






But once you cross the Rubicon, or leave the horde, you become a tainted quisling, a lickspittle sell-out ... and a fitting subject for the Major's ire ... (and it's possibly this constant treachery and betrayal that has stopped him from finding that long lost Order of Lenin medal) ...






Another Satanic figure, designed to invoke fear and terror in reptile readers, but then came the moment that redeemed the pond's Monday.

After slagging off all and sundry, the Major was suddenly left with that word salad master, the man deep in dotage, nattering "Ned" himself...






What we then have can be best described visually, in a couple of ways ... 








The pond has no immediate preference, though being reptiles, perhaps the image of a snake eating itself is more to the point ...



You know you're truly in la la land when the Major can suggest that nattering "Ned" put something, anything, succinctly ...

The day that "Ned" is succinct is the day that the pond packs its tent and steals into the night.

As for the Major dissing of the cawing Crowe, it's worth remembering that he too was once a member of the herpetarium ...




And so on and so forth, but once you leave the herpetarium and begin tut-tutting for another rag, the Major must cast you out as a treasonous wretch, stripped of all the reptile way of knowing ...

And with the Major's mention of his undying, ongoing love of fossil fools, what better way to do a segue and turn to the Caterist. The pond doesn't like to do it, but someone has to nuke the country and possibly nuke the planet, so why not the Caterist?

At this point, the pond should note that it was struck by this suggestion for social media types ...

There is almost always someone smarter than you out there, and there is also someone much dumber than the both of you confidently explaining something in that person’s area of expertise to them right now. Seek out the former, and try not to be the latter.
You do not have to have an opinion on everything...

Somehow that struck a chord. The pond could simply present the Caterist, and commenters could comment, many of them being much smarter than the pond, and at the bottom, there was the Caterist confidently explaining how he was much more informed than the CSIRO, and if you wanted an opinion on the movement of flood water in quarries, he was your man ... and the pond needn't have an opinion on all this, just the notion that the Caterist was a dumber than usual fuckwit would suffice ...





Um, is the pond going mad, or is it true that the plan to acquire nuclear submarines will likely take decades, and the pond will be long gone before a single sub comes into country?

At this point, the reptiles stuck in another snap to remind the readership of the Satanic figures they must learn to hate ...






But while inclined to the visual, the pond was eager to see the Caterist send the CSIRO packing with facts and figures ...






A couple of things to note here.

It wasn't so long ago that the Caterist was doubting climate science and climate change. There's a sterling example back on 9th June 2015, by Graham Readfearn under the header Does climate science denialist Nick Cater know the difference between an ice sheet and sea ice?

Better than that you can read the Caterist in his climate science denialist prime on 20th June 2015 in Unsettled science, if you don't mind giving the Speccie mob a click ... because there's more before the Caterist ends this way ...






The match is not even close, says the Caterist, and yet here we are, eight years on, with the Caterist urgently proposing a solution to an allegedly non-existent problem ...






Ah, and there's the other thing to note. The Caterist v. the CSIRO ...

As Australia attempts to hit ambitious emissions reduction targets during the transition to net zero, we know the energy sector has a major role to play. We also know that it makes sense to be informed of and assess a full range of technologies: some new and emerging, some established and proven.  
In this context, it's unsurprising that a debate around nuclear power has been reignited. Nuclear proponents believe there is potential for small modular reactors (SMRs) to be used for low-emissions electricity generation in Australia, providing essential firming capacity to support variable renewables.  
However, a review of the available evidence makes it clear that nuclear power does not currently provide an economically competitive solution in Australia – or that we have the relevant frameworks in place for its consideration and operation within the timeframe required. Without more real-world data for SMRs demonstrating that nuclear can be economically viable, the debate will likely continue to be dominated by opinion and conflicting social values rather than a discussion on the underlying assumptions. 

Well yes, and as for SMRs ...

One of the key principles that guides the GenCost process is the need for high quality data to base the report’s calculations on. According to Paul, the lack of robust data has been a challenge when it comes to nuclear – and for SMRs in particular. 
"The main area of uncertainty with nuclear is around capital costs,” Paul says. “Generally, we like to use hard data from commercially proven technologies, and when we don’t have that it can be very tricky. Within the report, we refer to five different tiers of data quality: the top tier would be a project that is observable and demonstrable within Australia.
"The middling tiers would look at extrapolating data from those observable projects or would be drawn from proven commercial projects overseas. By the time you reach the lower tiers you’re either looking at costing software or paper studies. Unfortunately, that’s where we still are with SMRs."   
Only two SMRs are known to operate in the world, located in Russia and China, and both have experienced cost blowouts and delays. 
This means for the purposes of GenCost, Paul and his team worked with paper studies, and after seeking feedback from industry, the main study they relied on was Natural Resources Canada’s SMR Roadmap (PDF, 923KB) which provides a thorough summary of what is already known about the technology. 
"We don’t disagree with the principle of SMRs,” Paul says. “They are an attempt to speed up the building process of nuclear plants using standardised components in a modular system, and it may well be possible to achieve cost reductions over time. However, because of Gencost’s data driven approach it is not feasible to derive any plausible costings with the current limitations of existing SMR sources outside of those already cited." 

There's the CSIRO here, or there's the Caterist coming out swinging in a final gobbet. Chose your quarry, chose your flood water ...




A rational zero-emissions energy policy? What happened to the wise sceptic of 2015? Has there ever been a renunciation, and a denouncing of the old Caterist by this young Caterist so keen to nuke the country, and possibly the planet?

Why suddenly so keen for zero emissions, when in a climate of uncertainty scepticism is the only rational response? What's this talk of nuking the country when everybody knows that the working hypothesis predicting a rise in carbon dioxide would result in a rise in temperature is a dud. Everyone knows it's a dud ...

What's that you say? Somebody forgot to tell NASA? There's an animation at the link, but the pond will cut to the warming chase ...





Uh huh. Where where we? If the pond might just do a little re-write:

"...there is also a Caterist much dumber than the both the CSIRO and NASA confidently explaining something in their area of expertise to them right now. Try not to be the Caterist, but do try to explain to the pond why the federal government finances this expert bullshit artist ..."

And it's all so familiar and repetitive, Monday, Monday, but at least there's an immortal Rowe for a closer ...








21 comments:

  1. "There was Lorraine Finlay, apparently unaware that she was scribbling for an organisation that on a daily basis provided sundry and assorted existential threats to truth, but it was such a tedious, dull and downright stupid piece..." Well whaddya expect from an appointee of Michaelia Cash ? D'ya reckon Michaelia could have understood a candidate who displayed intelligent intelligibility ?

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    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWiM-LuRe6w

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    2. "what I want to talk about is AI and the future of humanity..." Or summat like that. But humanity has no "future", it is a very finite thing with a limited creature lifespan.

      Now, does anybody reckon we ever will 'colonise' Mars ? Or anywhere else ? Or even travel out of the solar system ? Or even travel within the solar system ?

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    3. Well, at least we’ve sent a few probes, GB; but even though I grew up an SF nerd, I’ve long since given up any hope of ruling my own Galactic Empire.

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    4. True, Anony, and I await the creation of a 'permanent' base on the moon which just maybe might start happening while I'm still around to see it. But what earthly (?) use it might be I have no idea. But I guess it will keep us busy as we sit around still heating our one and ony planet.

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  2. "And with the Major's mention of his undying, ongoing love of fossil fools...". Oh my, how delightfully succinct.

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  3. After suggesting you wouldn't bother you did a good demolition on Nickie Boi DP.

    I get the feeling that the reptiles are just going through the motions nowadays, just repeating the catechism to show they are part of the team whilst they wait for something else that they can weaponised to come along. Like the LNP, they are only really viable within the herpetarium. If Murdoch finally dies who would employ any of these people? Similarly, if the Oz folds who else will take P Duttie seriously?

    Anyway, just to pick one issue that the nuke bros airily wave away as a minor problem

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/13/fukushima-water-to-be-released-into-ocean-in-next-few-months-says-japan

    https://cen.acs.org/environment/pollution/nuclear-waste-pilesscientists-seek-best/98/i12

    Let's be honest, waste is only stored at Lucas Heights because we have no domestic storage or reprocessing facilities. Overseas, they say they have solutions but thousands of tons of waste is sitting in corroding barrels waiting for the waste fairy to come along.

    It's typical of industrial societies that they claim to be innovating their way around problems when, in fact, they are just fencing them off and pillaging the next resource. Fishery depleted? Build a bigger boat and steal someone else's resource? Mine site needs remediation? Fold the company, the taxpayer can carry the cost - probably not necessary as the relevant minister is on the payroll.

    Sorry, must not rant so much.

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    1. Sorry, BF, it might be taxing, but more rants please ...

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    2. Last night, occasional senator Amanda Stoker, on Sky News, introduced what she identified as her 'Menzies Research Centre colleague', James Mathias, to say something about a poll which good ole, reliable, Compass Polling, had done, vaguely on the budget, for MRC.

      I mention it here simply to show how the cabal of Limited News, Sky and MRC, becomes ever more clustered. The claimed 'results' are of interest only if you are collecting examples of ways to manipulate a supposed 'poll' to deliver the result your commissioning client wants. We only hope that the marks who Compass found in their data base liked the toothpaste samples.

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    3. Yeah, your rants are good, Bef. And so, it goes without repeating, is Chad - the whole 'radioactive waste' thing is a serious problem everywhere it's been collected. The thing that amuses me, though, is that Lucas Heights was chosen as the site back before 1958 (yes it's been going for about 65 years) because it was 'distant' from human settlements. Which, come to think of it, is exactly why Tullamarine was chosen for a large modern airport, and supposedly no permits would be granted for housing built close by.

      So it goes.

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  4. Apparently everything that is not proposed by the right is an existential threat to News Corp, but since the right have so few policies, subscribers are paying to read the dregs of the tea-leaves.

    Given his new-found concern for the underprivileged in society by suggesting the collective raising of all boats, Mitchell can be elevated to Comrade. The better economic managers and all those Macyachts floating off to their tax havens have left the tinnies which float the aged, the disabled, First Nations Peoples and those seeking a job floundering in the mud. Only a true Stalinist advocates collective “floating all boats” economic policy.

    Mitchell could be replaced with a promotional BOT urging readers to subscribe to News Corp media rather than any other media as that is the basis for his pieces.

    Mitchell bleats: “but no government has ever taxed the nation to prosperity”. Businesses do not share their profits except via taxes. Without Comrade Mitchell apparently knowing it, even his prosperity is built on having taxes, which enable public sewerage systems, adequate pubic housing, public emergency services, public hospitals, public schools, etc., because otherwise there would be greater demand in the private sector and hence increased costs – or perhaps these things would never have been provided for the majority of the population at all.

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    1. "Bleats." Such a considered, elegant word. The pond might adopt it and retire "whine" to the pastures for a time ...

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    2. All that tax-funded government service is just nothing to a kindergarten proto-libertarian such as Maj. Mitch. Anony, but yes indeed he can do a noisy (indeed bleating) "what about me" if he thinks the government isn't treating him right.

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  5. As you point out, the Major uses the 'no government has ever taxed the nation to prosperity' as if it were of universal application. It is generally attributed to Winston Churchill, from around 1904, (when he was but a backbencher) although he continued to use it, complete with 'standing in a bucket and trying to lift oneself up' many times. It seems he composed the double statement first to respond to advocates of tariffs on imports. In that application the statements are broadly correct. There is delightful irony that the current government in the UK, which tries to take on a little of the Churchill mantle, is one of the first trading nations in history, as James O'Brien regularly reminds his listeners, to apply universal taxes on almost all of its trade, in the process of withdrawing from the biggest open trade bloc that has ever existed.

    Churchill's grasp of economics was not always that good - his insistence on continuing the gold standard in the 1930s did great damage to the then UK economy.

    As for the lifting the bucket metaphor being of universal application - countries like Norway and Qatar seem to have done wonderfully well out of taxing their way to prosperity.

    Finally - before we leave that bucket metaphor, have you seen the Shadow Minister for Finance - Jane Hume (for those who have forgotten) trying to use it in commenting on the recent federal budget? I have looked in vain for a clip on 'YouTube'; I think it was that dreadful, nigh Communistic, ABC that ran it on 'Insiders'. Anyway, seems Ms Hume is like Barnaby, in believing that, because she has been elected, catchy folk phrases just come to her on demand. In fact, she makes the proverbial dog's breakfast of what the Major would claim is a statement that is effective because it is easily remembered. Well, unless we are dealing with Jane Hume's memory.

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    1. Now that's the kind of thing Holely Henry should be quoting Thucydides at us for: the kinds of insanity committed by a once-upon-a-time "mighty" empire as it disintegrates with ever increasing rapidity. And thinking about Winnie Churchill, it is clear that he was the first on a long line that now includes Boris and Donnie. Amongst many others.

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  6. Yes, 'Insiders', right at the very end on iView, so you can miss most of Speers. The guest on 'Talking pictures' is the infallible (David) Pope, so a reason to watch that segment.

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    1. Gaud but that's annoying: actually maybe having a reason to connect to iView. I think I might wait to see if anybody is kind enough to YouTube it.

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  7. Chadwixk said "As for the lifting the bucket metaphor being of universal application - countries like Norway and Qatar seem to have done wonderfully well out of taxing their way to prosperity."

    The horses mouth.

    "Here is the speech he delivered on the need for ambitious tax reform to the Tax Institute last month. In essence:

    “The interests of the most disadvantaged are not being served by a tax system that is punishing innovation, denying people opportunity, undermining economic growth, and denying the sustainability of government service provision,” Dr Henry told a Tax Institute event in Melbourne. “Moreover, there can be no ignoring the extraordinary intergenerational inequity inherent in our present tax system.”

    "Ken is now a director of Accounting for Nature.

    "THE NEED FOR AMBITIOUS TAX REFORM – Ken Henry, 16 March 2023

    https://nofibs.com.au/speech-ken-henry-on-the-need-for-ambitious-tax-reform/

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    1. An interesting chap in his own way, our Ken, and provider of very good advice in the GFC that kept Australia basically out of trouble (and provided an eternal source of lies for the wingnuts), but given IMsortaHO to some kind of belief in $money as some kind of real thing subject to the laws of physics. Which it isn't, it's just an imaginary thing concocted by 'economists' to allow people to exchange goods and services with each other without having to forever be going to war over them.

      But then we could always copy the Chinese:
      https://www.pymnts.com/cryptocurrency/2021/china-tests-digital-yuan-wage-payments/

      Just think, if Australia was alone on Terra, it could get into as much debt as it wanted - even if the so-called 'debt' was $squillions, we could only ever owe it to ourselves. So, we would never have to pay back this 'debt', we could just keep on accumulating it forever ... or at least till the human race's date of extinction - and then only an AI would be left to pay itself off forever.

      Or at least for about a billion years into the future when the sun's expansion to 'red giant' state will basically finish our poor old planet off completely.
      The sun won’t die for 5 billion years, so why do humans have only 1 billion years left on Earth?
      https://theconversation.com/the-sun-wont-die-for-5-billion-years-so-why-do-humans-have-only-1-billion-years-left-on-earth-37379#Earth%E2%80%99s%20Fiery%20Demise

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  8. How long would it actually take to legislate for and build a nuclear plant in Australia?

    https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/nuclear-power-at-least-15-years-away-says-regulator/news-story/6b8c4ec9c94cd4d05471783678abdb59

    17 years - what would these clowns know? After all, they’re only Australia’s nuclear regulatory body. For real expertise, go to the Sociology-trained Caterist!

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  9. Shorter Major - Reptile journalist criticises non-Reptile journalists’ coverage of Federal Budget, praises fellow-Reptiles’ coverage of same. Insightful commentary - zero. Benefit to general public -zero. Boost to Major’s ego - priceless.

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