Yep, it's great for the 'toons, a small price to pay when you can think of the laughs you can get crossing the country in search of medical relief or while buying shares ...
It goes without saying that it was vastly more amusing than Killer, and it had also been, in Killer style, misrepresented by Killer ...
“A dollop of humor makes the anti-establishment rage go down,” as the writer Noah Berlatsky wrote in 2020 for Foreign Policy in a piece headlined “Fascists Know How to Turn Mockery Into Power. ” “Horseplay is necessary,” believed Joseph Goebbels, one of Adolf Hitler’s closest, most loyal advisers and the Nazis’ top propagandist. “Mussolini,” Ruth Ben-Ghiat, the author of Strongmen, told me, referring to 20th-century Italian fascist Benito Mussolini, “had the same twisted sense of humor” as Trump. And stenograms of Communist Party and Politburo meetings in the era of Joseph Stalin in the Soviet Union show no shortage of notations of laughter — from jokes made at the expense of somebody about to be on the outs to a sort of forced or sycophantic fun. “There’s a lot,” Maya Vinokour, a scholar of Stalinism, told me, “and that even ends up being true as the purges start.”
Trump is not Hitler or Stalin or Mussolini. But they share a rhetorical style, experts say. That’s because the humor is not a bug. “It’s a feature of demagoguery,” Vinokour explained. “Laughter is going to be a weapon, because you laugh at something to diminish it and as preparation for casting it down or destroying it,” she said. “So I don’t think that Trump could get away with just fearmongering. I think he has to punctuate it with moments of levity.”
“It’s such a huge part of his movement,” Alexander Reid Ross, the author of Against the Fascist Creep and a member of the executive committee of the Far Right Analysis Network, told me. “It is a way of inverting and reversing assumptions in a carnivalesque kind of way. It’s a way of upending morality,” he said. “It’s a thing that gives him permission to go on the attack in really hostile ways while saving face as just sort of an old satirist or something.”
“He doesn’t cry and say, ‘My God, they’ve indicted me more times than Al Capone! Can you believe they indicted me more than Al Capone?’” Alan Marcus, a former Trump consultant and publicist in the ’90s, told me. “He gets them to join him in his denigration of the system,” he said. “He uses it to minimize his shortcomings and maximize his bond with the audience.”
The Capone crack is especially instructive. By analogizing himself to a notoriously murderous mobster, by calling actual attention to the volume of the criminality with which he is charged, but by doing it in the context of jokes, Trump diminishes the unprecedented enormity of the accusations against him — that he tried to overturn an election, fomented a deadly insurrection and concealed national security documents — while convincing his followers that what’s plainly so serious can’t be serious at all.
Fintan O’Toole, the accomplished Irish critic and polemicist, just published an excellent essay about this in the New York Review of Books — exploring the almost magical way comedy, in the hands of an actor like Trump, can normalize the abnormal, lessen the monstrous and offer audiences a sinister kind of license.
The pond can never tell if a NYRB reference is inside or outside the paywall, so here's the opening as a sampler as a way of making up for exposing Killer to sunlight yet again...
In the Warsaw Ghetto in October 1941 Mary Berg, then a teenager, wrote in her diary about the improbable persistence of laughter in that hellish place:
"Every day at the Art Café on Leszno Street one can hear songs and satires on the police, the ambulance service, the rickshaws, and even the Gestapo, in a veiled fashion. The typhus epidemic itself is the subject of jokes. It is laughter through tears, but it is laughter. This is our only weapon in the ghetto—our people laugh at death and at the Nazi decrees. Humor is the only thing the Nazis cannot understand."
Berg here movingly expresses a common and comforting idea. Laughter is one of the few weapons that the weak have against the strong. Gallows humor is the one thing that cannot be taken away from those who are about to be hanged, the final death-defying assertion of human dignity and freedom. And the hangmen don’t get the jokes. Fascists don’t understand humor.
There is great consolation in these thoughts. Yet is it really true that fascists don’t get humor? Racist, misogynistic, antisemitic, xenophobic, antidisabled, and antiqueer jokes have always been used to dehumanize those who are being victimized. The ghetto humor that Berg recorded was a way of keeping self-pity at bay. But as Sigmund Freud pointed out, jokes can also be a way of shutting down pity itself by identifying those who are being laughed at as the ones not worthy of it: “A saving in pity is one of the most frequent sources of humorous pleasure.” Humor, as in Berg’s description, may be a way of telling us not to feel sorry for ourselves. But it is more often a way of telling us not to feel sorry for others. It creates an economy of compassion, limiting it to those who are laughing and excluding those who are being laughed at. It makes the polarization of humanity fun.
Around the time that Berg was writing her diary, Theodor Adorno and Max Horkheimer were pointing to the relationship between Nazi rallies and this kind of comedy. The rally, they suggested, was an arena in which a release that was otherwise forbidden was officially permitted:
The anti-Semites gather to celebrate the moment when authority lifts the ban; that moment alone makes them a collective, constituting the community of kindred spirits. Their ranting is organized laughter. The more dreadful the accusations and threats, the greater the fury, the more withering is the scorn. Rage, mockery, and poisoned imitation are fundamentally the same thing.
Donald Trump is not a Nazi, and his followers are (mostly) not fascists. But it is not hard to see how this description resonates with his campaign appearances. Trump is America’s biggest comedian. His badinage is hardly Wildean, but his put-downs, honed to the sharpness of stilettos, are many people’s idea of fun. For them, he makes anger, fear, and resentment entertaining.
For anyone who questions how much talent and charisma this requires, there is a simple answer: Ron DeSantis. Why did DeSantis’s attempt to appeal to Republican voters as a straitlaced version of Trump fall so flat? Because Trumpism without the cruel laughter is nothing. It needs its creator’s fusion of rage, mockery, and poisoned imitation, whether of a reporter with a disability or (in a dumb show that Trump has been playing out in his speeches in recent months) of Joe Biden apparently unable to find his way off a stage. It demands the withering scorn for Sleepy Joe and Crooked Hillary, Crazy Liz and Ron DeSanctimonious, Cryin’ Chuck and Phoney Fani. It requires the lifting of taboos to create a community of kindred spirits. It depends on Trump’s ability to be pitiless in his ridicule of the targets of his contempt while allowing his audience to feel deeply sorry for itself. (If tragedy, as Aristotle claimed, involves terror and pity, Trump’s tragicomedy deals in terror and self-pity.)
Spoiler alert: O'Toole ended this way ...
...Part of the dissonance is that Trump’s stand-up routine is completely dependent on the idea that he and his audience most despise: political correctness. Like much of the worst of contemporary comedy, Trump both amuses and thrills his audience by telling them that he is saying what he is not allowed to say. “Beautiful women,” he said at the rally in South Carolina after pointing to a group of female superfans in the audience. “You’re not allowed to say that anymore, but I’ll say it…. That usually is the end of a career, but I’ll say it.” There are so many layers to a moment like this: the idea that the woke mob is stopping manly men from complimenting attractive women, a sideways nod toward the “pussygate” tapes that should have ended Trump’s political career but didn’t, a dig at the Me Too movement, a reiteration of Trump’s right to categorize women as “my type” or “not my type,” the power of the leader to lift prohibitions—not just for himself but, in this carnivalesque arena of utopian freedom, for everyone in the audience.
Flirting with the unsayable has long been part of his shtick. If we go all the way back to May 1992 to watch Trump on Letterman’s show, there is a moment when Trump silently mouths the word “shit.” He does this in a way that must have been practiced rather than spontaneous—it takes some skill to form an unspoken word so clearly for a TV audience that everyone immediately understands it. Letterman plays his straight man: “You ain’t that rich, Don, you can’t come on here and say that.” But of course Trump did not “say” it. A sympathetic audience loves a moment like this because it is invited to do the transgressive part in its head. It gets the pleasure of filling in the blank.
Trump’s audiences, in other words, are not passive. This comedy is a joint enterprise of performer and listener. It gives those listeners the opportunity for consent and collusion. Consider a televised speech Trump gave at the Al Smith Dinner, hosted by the Catholic archbishop of New York, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, in October 2016, near the end of the presidential campaign. The dinner, held to raise money for Catholic charities, is traditionally the last occasion on which the two main presidential candidates share a stage—Hillary Clinton was also present. Trump deadpanned that he knew he would have a receptive audience because “so many of you in the archdiocese already have a place in your heart for a guy who started out as a carpenter working for his father. I was a carpenter working for my father. True.”
What is the joke here? That Trump is like Jesus Christ. Imagine if Clinton had attempted an equivalent gag. There would have been outrage and uproar: Clinton has insulted all Christians by making a blasphemous comparison between herself and the divine Savior. But the cameras cut to Dolan, a sycophantic supporter of Trump, and showed him laughing heartily. And if the cardinal found it funny, it was funny. It was thus an in-joke. If Clinton had made it, it would be the ultimate out-joke, proof of the Democrats’ contempt for people of faith.
But what is allowed as funny will sooner or later be proposed seriously. Many of those attending Trump rallies now wear T-shirts that proclaim “Jesus Is My Savior. Trump Is My President.” Some of them illustrate the slogan with a picture of an ethereal Christ laying both his hands on Trump’s shoulders. What begins as a risqué quip ends up as a religious icon. There is no line here between sacrilege and devotion, transgressive humor and religious veneration.
Just as Trump’s jokes can become literal, his ugly realities can be bathed in the soothing balm of laughter. Long before he ran for president, he was indulged on the late-night talk shows as the hilarious huckster. In 1986 Letterman tried repeatedly to get Trump to tell him how much money he had, and when he continually evaded the question, Letterman broke the tension with the laugh-line, “You act like you’re running for something.” In December 2005 Conan O’Brien asked him, “You also have an online school? Is that correct?” Trump replied, “Trump University—if you want to learn how to get rich.” The audience howled with laughter, presumably not because they thought he was kidding but because the very words “Trump University” are innately absurd. When he did that Top Ten List on Letterman in 2009, Trump’s comic financial advice included “For tip number four, simply send me $29.95.”
But these jokes came true. Trump wouldn’t say how much he was worth because his net worth was partly fictional. Trump did run for something. Trump University was an innately funny idea that people took seriously enough to enable Trump to rip them off. And Trump does want you to send him $29.95—the first thing you get on Trump’s official website is an insistent demand: “Donate Today.” This is the thing about Trump’s form of organized laughter, in which the idea of humor obscures the distinction between outlandish words and real-life actions. Sooner or later, the first becomes the second. The in-joke becomes the killer line.
The pond now has a bet going that Killer started at Trump University but never managed to collect his degree ...
Meanwhile on another planet, far removed from Killer's comedy stylings ...
"Ah, a one time cardigan wearer..." Given the Bloomberg connection, are we sure that isn't ABC of the USA ?
ReplyDeleteMein Gott is too modest. We Aussies already lead the world in one proven form of mind manipulation. It contributes to tax revenue in a way that causes no offence to economic libertarians; in fact, many of them praise it as proof of our national devotion to freedumb. It has been done with the full, advance, approval of state governments - a level of administration that the reptiles do not usually credit with foresight, nor great care in drafting legislation. It is a significant factor in Australian finances, which is supposed to be der Gott’s area of expertise.
ReplyDeleteI refer, of course, to gambling, and more specifically to electronic gaming machines, which have brought us to the highest gambling losses in the world, per-capita. Or, viewed from the libertarian prism - we have a highly efficient tax on stupid. Except that that stupid is accentuated by some of the most intense and careful research into our psychology that will never make it into the published literature.
Der Gott could also approve that we manufacture these tax-collecting machines locally, apparently without any of that wasteful government grant funding, or other incentive from the public purse - well, apart from elected members passing legislation that, amongst other things, usually sets a rate of return from those machines that guarantees that the regular ‘player’ will lose. Vertical integration at its finest.
Given that the tenor of his writing for this day is to promote AI as an unalloyed good (if we just follow his wise lead) Mein Gott might have had reservations about this earlier electronic revolution, because around 1% of the population have significant problems with it, and a further 2% are seen as ‘vulnerable’ because of it. But, well - as so many other reptiles tell us, freedumb comes with a price, a little collateral damage - but that verges on ‘woke’, so can be discounted.
We do just kinda take it for granted, don't we. How did we get this way ?
DeleteWe got that way gradually, and often with the best of declared intentions. So many politicians giving mawkish justifications for the 'local RSL' to install pokies 'for the benefit of our gallant servicemen'. The proportion of turnover giving identifiable benefits to anyone who has actually seen any kind of defence service has been shrinking steadily - against overheads, promotional expenses, building works, and the steadily rising remuneration to directors and those giving the other 'service' - on committees.
DeleteA friend of ours was active in a local music group, which provided a special program for the night of Remembrance Day at the local RSL. Back in 2016, she called the committee to go over the music for November 11, but was told that, because it would be a Friday, they would not be having the special night of remembrance, because that was their best night on the pokies, by a long margin.
Oh yes, pokies at the local RSL which, not being a patron, I had entirely forgotten. But I suppose a nation whose citizens - at least some of them - were dedicated to playing 'two up' upon their return from active service already had the makings.
DeleteA sort of reasonable commentary:
ReplyDeleteWhy are so many people only now turning against the Gaza war?
https://jabberwocking.com/why-are-so-many-people-only-now-turning-against-the-gaza-war/
https://ericberne.com/games-people-play/schlemiel/
DeletePoor bashing Mien Gotte 'guesses' it is the "reading poor basket". Actually it is the reading rich basket which Mien Gotte forgot "Scott Morrison-era ‘accounting tricks’ to cost public schools $13bn over next five years
ReplyDelete"National School Resourcing Board’s review finds state schools lost more than $2bn in 2022 due to a Coalition-era loophole"
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/apr/10/scott-morrison-era-accounting-tricks-to-cost-public-schools-13bn-over-next-five-years
Reading Rich Basketers Breeds... the bunyip aristocracy -T St Baker et al - are bourne out of "...Britain: according to investigative journalist Kevin Cahill, in the UK and Ireland, 70% of land is still owned by less than 1% of the population. In his book Who Owns Britain, Cahill argues that 0.3% of the British population owns 66% of the country, and these 160,000 families who own two-thirds of Great Britain largely descend from the army of William the Conqueror — the first Norman King of England who first conquered the country in 1066.
"Cahill’s research traces the roots of current land ownership patterns back to the Norman Conquest of 1066. ... Strikingly, this one decision by a king in the 11th century still greatly affects the UK now."
https://www.zmescience.com/other/shorties/70-percent-britain-land-owned-by-the-rich/
Dunno that it matters all that much, Anony. I have my suburban 1/6th of an acre (the "quarter acre block" is from times long past) with my modest suburban residence upon it and I wouldn't know what to do with an acre or more. We're all suburbanites now.
DeleteHi Dorothy,
ReplyDeleteI think somebody should remind Killer that the problem with political jokes is that they often get elected.
An oldie, but still a goodie, thank you DW.
DeleteWell I've seen many a blinkered buffoon elected, but precious few, if any, 'jokes'.
DeleteTrouble is that, by and large, the folk that get elected are just as ignorant and pointless as the folks who elect them. Just look at the crowd in the USA who vote for Trump - even crazier than those who voted for Reagan and George W. And those in Australia who voted for Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison. And those who think that Spud Dutton is worth electing. Dunno about Albo, but the main thing he seems to have going for him is that he isn't one of those four.
I am occasionally reminded of a news film I saw in a movie theatre maybe 60+ years ago in which Aussies were being quizzed about who they'd vote for and one earnest lady stated that she just couldn't vote for Arthur Caldwell (yes he of "two wongs don't make a white") because he really just couldn't possibly be introduced to the Queen - he just doesn't speak well enough.
Dunno about jokes being elected, but there's sure plenty of jokes doing the electing.
[sigh]
I'm wondering if it was a democrat to incited an insurrection, impeached twice and was facing 91 charges he would be like, actually they're actually pretty funny.
ReplyDeleteBiden's gaffes are apparently demonstrates his lack of humour. Trumps don't seem to exist.
It’s frequently been said that Trump exhibits no real sense of humour; never been seen to crack a joke or to laugh at one. The closest he’s come is his penchant for snide nicknames for his opponents and poking fun at those unable to respond; eg, his mocking of a physically disabled journalist during his 2016 campaign. Yeah, he’s a barrel of fun, Killer; we could all die laughing.
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liminality&oldid=711948444#Liminal_experiences_in_large-scale_societies
DeleteNot a single one of those pathetic examples of Trump 'humour' given by Creighton are remotely funny. Fascists are no laughing matter. A fascist 'joke' is always at someone else's expense. The Killer expects readers to think Trump's statement that he'd be a dictator 'for a day' should be dismissed as just 'joshing around'. Trump is not messing around, he is growing more desperate each day, and snivelling reptile hacks like wannabe crony Creighton are now sounding just as desperate by writing stuff like this steaming pile of dogshit he served up today.
DeleteSo KillerC reckons that "Most people by now know that Trump's remarks are rarely meant to be taken literally". So that's it, it's just Trump playing out his chosen role as 'The Joker' laughing all the way to our oblivion.
DeleteAs it has been said before, and most likely will be said again and again, that Trump 'uses humour to normalise his carryings-on' thereby proving yet again, if any proof was needed, that it's not how people are that matters, it's how people think they are, and Trump is expert at controlling how many people think he is.
Well at least how some people think he is, and that was enough to get him elected, and may get him elected again. Laughing all the way.
Just for the record, here's a joke that got elected:
ReplyDeleteMorrison’s Covid measures a ‘grotesque overreaction’ to a ‘relatively mild pandemic’, Tony Abbott says
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/apr/11/tony-abbott-scott-morrison-covid-19-pandemic-response-overreaction-vaccination