The pond would like to take the chance to wish a happy Saturnalia, and good cheer for whatever season they've signed up for, to its highly esteemed correspondents.
Saturnalia tends to be controversial in rarefied circles, though it simply acknowledges Roman days and the seasonal solstice - any excuse to bung on a do and a feast - has been accepted into academic circles.
It seems it still attracts the ire of fundie Xians, with this sign recently featured in a YouTube site:
You only have to prod them a little, and Xian intolerance will always bubble to the surface:
Perhaps Saturnalia got tangled up in the war on Xmas, a war now somewhat in remission.
There was a good history of that war in Media Matters. It's by Parker Molloy and is headed A War on Christmas Story: How Fox News built the dumbest part of America's culture war.
What's disappointing is that it only takes the war up to 2019:
2019: The season began early with the Fox News invention of a new seasonal war, this time on Thanksgiving. But it's not as though there weren't Christmas grievances to air. Fox Business host Trish Regan became irate over the fact that Starbucks' annual holiday cups say “Merry Coffee” instead of “Merry Christmas,” a move she was convinced had been driven by political correctness. In an interview with Jeanine Pirro, Lara Trump celebrated the ability to “say 'Merry Christmas' again.”
Indirectly this confirms a trend which the pond has suspected has been developing for some years ...Is the ‘War on Christmas’ over? Polling suggests fewer Americans think it exists.
Bloomberg has done its best to keep the fuss alive, There Is No War on Christmas. There Are Many.
But Bloomberg itself failed the test with The ‘War on Christmas’ Is the Wrong Fight for Christians
Really? Even worse were there were signs that some wanted to abandon their orange Jesus, their tangerine tyrant, for their original saviour:
“It’s not unusual,” he writes, “to see signs featuring a cross draped in an American flag or even Jesus wearing an American flag as a sash.” Those images lead to “people being convinced that being an American citizen is synonymous with being a Christian” — and often, that being a Christian is synonymous with being a Republican.
“You’re not a Christian if you vote for a Democrat,” a megachurch pastor in Dallas said earlier in the year. He was hardly the only person to make that claim, which has led many Christians to believe, Bezner writes, “that our salvation is found not in Jesus but in who occupies the White House.”
His book aims “to remind us of the backward and upside-down values of Jesus and to hold them in tension with our American values.” He’s deeply patriotic, but doesn’t confuse love of country with love of God, or loyalty to party with fidelity to scripture.
This is a worrying trend, someone who actually read the bible:
“Too many of our pastors sound like pundits,” he writes. “Too few of us wash feet.”
That's spoilsport behaviour. Does this Bezner chappie see King Donald I arranging a feet-washing ceremony at the White House to show his common touch and his deep spirituality, deeper than orange toner?
It takes all the fun out of wishing pond readers happy Saturnalia or happy holydays, or offer season's greetings, or merry Xmas if you insist ...
The reptiles have badly let down the side. The war on Xmas should be revived and rage for decades.
To hell with it, in honour of a happy Saturnalia and during the holyday season, the pond is going to indulge in a variation on the hunger games.
Only one reptile will make the cut each day. Others might be noted, but only in passing; there will be much blood in the Surry Hills Colosseum sand.
Some will be slighted, some offered just a little finger, a cutting Becky Sharp note that they're the loser in a bunch of losers.
Somehow they couldn't contrive on any given day to be the worst of the worst ... and so must endure the punishment of exile (putting them in Cicero's class is perhaps too fine an honour).
This will involve some great sacrifices. For example, the pond can only note in passing the leaking of the Gaetz report prior to its official launch.
The pond can merely note the reports of others on the sale of Foxtel, at the Graudian and in the Nine rags.
The news of a sports streamer taking over the Murdochian vision led some to hope the dream was dead, though the ABC's report did attempt to offer a small consolation:
All the Fox Sports operations will move across to DAZN as part of the deal, but Sky News Australia will continue to be owned by News Corp and will be broadcast by Foxtel.
But how much love will a sports streamer devote to a bunch of ratbags with abysmal ratings?
The gathering of the filthy rich swamp dwellers in January, Why Trump Is Going to Have the Swampiest Inauguration Ever (outside the paywall), is a future treat, with splendid trinkets on offer for those who can't afford a ticket to the real thing:
A hunger games variant will be tough on the reptiles, but they love tough love.
This day many headlines of the greenie and Jewish activist and billionaire kind shrieked for attention ...
But the pond refused to be tempted ...while over on the extreme far right an array of reptile pundits pleaded for attention to be paid ...
But only one reptile could make the cut ... and it certainly wouldn't be ancient Troy, offering tall tales of future reads, or Marita scribbling a fable about the fate of Pesutto, as if the pond cared.
Nor could Dame Groan pass muster. A standard bout of union bashing couldn't hold a candle to the winner this day, the valiant returning bromancer, celebrating the true spirit of the season ...
Come on down bromancer ... Art of god: the rite stuff, A conversation with Marilynne Robinson confirms a belief she is ‘the greatest Christian novelist of the 21st century’.
Of course you can't do a book blurb without a snap of the author, Novelist Marilynne Robinson.
Then it was on with the hagiography, the bromancer in finest full flowering of simpering excess. Dame Groan, with her talk of following the money (Murdochian money excepted) was no match:
Robinson demonstrates the continuity between the God of the Old Testament and the New Testament. In one sense, Robinson is telling us what we already know. God doesn’t change. We need look no further than Jesus for an evaluation of the Hebrew scriptures. They are always on his lips throughout the New Testament.
Let me tell you a little about Robinson. She’s an American essayist and academic who has taught literature, the OT, and much else. She’s also, in my view, the greatest Christian novelist of the 21st century. It’s impossible, though, to contain her in any category. In 2004 Robinson published Gilead, which won the Pulitzer Prize, an astonishing outcome, given its subject. Gilead, perhaps the best novel I’ve read, defies summary or description. It’s a fictional letter a 76-year-old Congregationalist pastor in Iowa, John Ames, writes to his seven-year-old son, in 1956. Ames expects to die soon. He offers his son an account of his life, a substitute for the memories the boy won’t have, and also advice, on God, life, how to see the world.
“I hadn’t written fiction in a long time. I became aware I had a certain voice in my head and a certain vision in my mind. And I thought it (Gilead) felt like something that would allow me to deal with questions like parental love, things that are extremely complex and profound.”
After Gilead, Robinson wrote three connected novels, Lila, Home and Jack. Did she plan a series? “No. I simply felt as if I knew the characters in a much fuller way than one novel had let me explore and they lived in my mind the way a character I was writing about would, so I gave them their books.”
It's also wise, when blurbing, to feature a purchase opportunity, Marilynne Robinson’s Gilead, in the spirit of an Amazon Xmas:
Carry on bromancing:
Robinson has created an entire fictional universe for us, shot through with Ames’s beguiling ruminations on God, natural beauty, life and meaning. Now she takes us to Genesis. You get a sense of how integrated her understanding of God’s long dialogue with humanity is. The three Abrahamic faiths, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, substantially derive from Genesis (it doesn’t figure as a separate book in Islam, but significant parts of it appear in the Koran). The OT appeals as art: “I have no doubt that whatever else you say about the Bible, it’s great ancient literature, that stands up against Homer or any other comparison.”
Ah, a category error.
Is the Bible itself great ancient literature? Has Robinson read the original texts in their original languages? Or is she referring to the King James translation, notoriously flawed as a translation (does that bring out the weirdos, or what?) Was she moved by the work of a committee, standing on the backs of others? (Poor Tyndale, burned at the stake for his pains).
Or is she referring to some other translation? Has she ever wondered why all the great writing in the apocrypha never made the cut?
Nah, no saucy doubts here, here no saucy doubts:
Robinson thinks the whole Bible a meditation on theodicy, the problem of evil: how do we reconcile a loving, good God with the existence of so much evil and suffering? Because the culture has moved against metaphysics – reasoning from first principles – we’ve stopped making any serious effort to read and interpret scripture, especially Genesis. This is a spectacular impoverishment. For, Robinson argues, Genesis is completely unique in the literature of the ancient world.
Oh dear, of all the things on which to hang your hat, though to be fair, Genesis does show that the long absent lord loved Herself a good genocide ...
All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
What a genocidal bitch She was, though it perhaps explains why genocide remains a popular sport.
Speaking of genocide, sadly the pond's strict rule means that it can't mention Nesrine Malik's A consensus is emerging: Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Where is the action?
Shush, Nesrine, the bromancer is having a rapture.
How can he take action on a current genocide when he's rapturously celebrating past genocides?
Is the Genesis claim that humanity is made in the image of God also unique? Robinson: “Yes, that’s true. It is unique, dazzlingly so, I would say.” Robinson argues the episode where God instructs Abraham to sacrifice his son, Isaac, but then stops him at the last, supports: “A reading that sees in the dramatising of child sacrifice something shocking and transgressive, rejected by God …” Child sacrifice was practised in numerous ancient cultures, including Carthage: “I think it’s fascinating that Carthage is never mentioned by name in the Bible. Carthage would have been a very large, very influential culture, and a Semitic language culture.” When it came to certain pagan customs and personalities they regarded as beyond the pale, the OT writers: “ … would not speak the actual names of pagan gods. They had names like Beelzebub instead. It seems to me the exclusion of them (Carthage) altogether is probably an extension of that same impulse.”
Himself? Another category error. Is it any wonder the pond celebrates, along with those Pompeiians enjoying a family feast?
Oh look, they loved a bit of foot tending too ... pity about Her ordering up a volcano to help with the feast.
Then comes a form of undiluted wankery, abusing humanism as a notion while at the same time celebrating one of the great misogynists.
Robinson is describing what could be called scriptural humanism, when she writes: “ … these divine likenesses (ie, human beings, images of God) among whom we live are of the highest interest to God.” She tells me: “The Old Testament prepares the idea that what happens in human history is central, cosmic, absolutely meaningful. This is the context in which the figure of Jesus can arise.” Her insights into religion are inherently literary, which puts them on the highest plane, for the proper subject of literature is the truths of the human heart. Naturally, in excavating the human heart, the artist encounters God. She believes it a great mistake that a knowledge of Genesis or, say, the writings of Paul, is absent in the experience of students in Western education: “The always more rigorous exclusion of religion from education that’s gone on in recent decades has been simultaneous with a kind of stepping away from scripture and theology in a lot of mainstream churches. There’s a tendency to make them good people societies. They’re losing the literary roots of their own denominations, not only the Bible but a lot of beautiful things written by people inspired by the Bible.”
The writings of Paul?
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Pray be silent, wretched woman writer, or if you must, blather gibberish in tongues.
In Gilead, Ames speculates about heaven. Does Robinson look forward to heaven? “Something I have in common with Ames, I like this world very well. I’m very grateful to be a part of it. I don’t know what to expect (about heaven). I think it probably would be naive to try to know what to expect. If you’re persuaded of God’s ultimate benevolence, you could look forward to heaven on those terms.”
Spoken with a genuine ambivalence. Luckily the benevolence has been revealed to all as the treat that will follow the salmon mousse course:
Time then for the sign off:
Reading Robinson helps persuade me of God’s benevolence. Happy Christmas to all.
Reading the bromancer going full Xian helps remind the pond of Her complete indifference.
Happy Saturnalia to all and as William Blake once wrote ...
Nor for itself hath any care,
But for another gives its ease,
And builds a Heaven in Hell's despair."
Trodden with the cattle's feet,
But a Pebble of the brook
Warbled out these metres meet:
To bind another to its delight,
Joys in another's loss of ease,
And builds a Hell in Heaven's despite."
Put it another way ...
Yep, soon we can look forward to another year of the reptiles building a Hell in Heaven's despite ...
"This is a worrying trend, someone who actually read the bible:". Oh pish tush, DP, indeed many hundreds of millions of people have passed their eyes, or fingers, over "The Bible", but how many of them have ever understood any of it ?
ReplyDeleteWhich could sorta be the problem, couldn't it: all of the words but none of the thoughts.
GB - following up your link yesterday to 'Omphalos', also reminded me of Bertrand Russell's 'five minute hypothesis'. That thought kept popping up in (what I think is) my brain, as I read what the Bromancer has put before Rupert's readers this day.
DeleteSo this novelist, that the bromancer (I hear from my grandkids that it’s 'bruh' not 'bro', so maybe he can have two names, bruhranter/bromancer, anyway she says,
ReplyDelete"Some of the greatest philosophers of the past"
without acknowledging Spinoza , the best most honourable person I have ever read about and his criticism of religion.
"As a young man, Spinoza challenged rabbinic authority and questioned Jewish doctrines, leading to his permanent expulsion from the Jewish community in 1656. Following his excommunication, he distanced himself from all religious affiliations and devoted himself to philosophical inquiry and lens grinding."
We should all be more like Spinoza except lens grinding is not good for one's health, and Bertrand Russell.
And about the war on Christmas, what role did Melania play in this farcical attempt to be divisive.
"At an Iowa rally in 2015, Trump said, "If I become president, we're gonna be saying Merry Christmas at every store ... You can leave happy holidays at the corner." At the 2017 tree-lighting ceremony, the president pledged to restore "Merry Christmas" to the White House. On the 2020 campaign trail, Trump even went so far as to suggest that now President-elect Joe Biden would cancel Christmas if elected.
Despite Trump's continued suggestion that Christmas is under attack, his wife revealed less than warm feelings toward observing the holiday in the White House in 2018.
In tapes played by CNN earlier this year, Melania Trump was recorded expressing her frustration at criticism of the family separation policy. "I'm working ... my a** off on the Christmas stuff, that, you know, who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations? But I need to do it, right?" she said."
I wonder about those who claim to have read the Bible. Did they get to Nahum?
ReplyDelete"Take ye the spoil of silver, take the spoil of gold: for there is none end of the store and glory out of all the pleasant furniture.
Take the spoil of silver and gold. [1]
10 She is empty, and void, and waste: and the heart melteth, and the knees smite together, and much pain is in all loins, and the faces of them all gather blackness.
11 Where is the dwelling of the lions, and the feedingplace of the young lions, where the lion, even the old lion, walked, and the lion's whelp, and none made them afraid?
12 The lion did tear in pieces enough for his whelps, and strangled for his lionesses, and filled his holes with prey, and his dens with ravin.
The heart melts,
the knees knock together,
and there is much pain in all loins.
13Behold, I am against thee, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will burn her chariots in the smoke, and the sword shall devour thy young lions: and I will cut off thy prey from the earth, and the voice of thy messengers shall no more be heard."
What does it mean?
Thanks for an entertaining year, DP, merry Christmas, and may all your cherries be ripe.
"Let me tell you a little about Robinson", on Trump, which the bromancer - amazingly - ignores. And where is the affiliate or conflict of interest statement?
ReplyDeleteOn Fox. “My mother lived out the end of her fortunate life in a state of bitterness and panic, never having had the slightest brush with any experience that would confirm her in these emotions, except, of course, Fox News,” she writes drily
~ Marilynne Robinson The Guardian
"Marilynne Robinson on writing the new America
...
"... I’ve never known anybody like that – the way that he [Trump] doesn’t seem to know he’s lying. He can, therefore, lie very successfully. It’s amazing. But in any case obviously there are problems in society that are more profound than Donald Trump. He brought them to the surface and they really have to be looked at and answered.
RM: Do you think that in some sense he does embody something dark in the American psyche?
MR: (laughs) I think he embodies something dark in the universal psyche. It’s terrifying to see how willingly he will divide a country that has thriven and historically is dependent on the fact that we don’t deal in those kinds of divisions. If he really puts his imprint on American culture, it will look a lot more like a lot of the unhappy or failed states in the rest of the world. I think we can look to the people that did not vote for Trump – and they are the majority by a considerable margin – to be a very meaningful resistance.
...
RM: Some people listening to this might say, does all this stuff really matter? For the life of the ordinary man and woman in Main Street, life will carry on and he’s just the President and it doesn’t add up to too much of a problem. What do you say to that?
MR: That’s best case. The thing that bothers me so much, which really saddens me, is that the apparent tendency of his government will be to undercut social supports that have helped exactly the people who voted for him – social security, ObamaCare, minimum wage reform, all kinds of things. Some great failure occurred where people absolutely did not understand where their values, their interests lie. I do blame the churches – many, many of the churches of the branches of Christianity in this country – for participating in this polarisation and for radically mis-stating what are in fact Christian values. The great opposition that has developed politically in this country against helping the poor, against – God knows – doing justice to the foreigner (all these kinds of things that are ancient, classic, biblical, Christian values) have been swept away by people who claim Christianity as if it were a tribal membership rather than as if it were an ethical, moral, metaphysical system of understanding."
...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/8KXYPzmj6FKvRxZxvhTQrK/marilynne-robinson-on-writing-the-new-america
"[Trump] doesn’t seem to know he’s lying". Interesting thought, isn't it, for of course someone who doesn't know that he's lying, isn't. But then, remember what they say about successful salesmen: they believe everything they say for just about as long as it takes to say it. Which is a neat trick that they can repeat over and over.
DeleteExcellent research Anon, and the pond humbly thanks you for it. So much left unexplored and unsaid by the bromancer, but then again, why would he, as a paid up member of a tribal membership ...
ReplyDeleteMy thanks also Anonymous. One of the pleasures of being engaged with this site is the amount of independent research that others are prepared to do.
DeleteSide by Side.
DeleteA billionaire biasOmeter is useless against a missingOmeter. As in...
- The bromancer missing out in asking about trump
- missing editorials. ".... effectively killed or indefinitely delayed multiple editorials that have been written and edited but remain unpublished,”
I want a missingOMeter for Christmas.
Better. How about a billonaire own goal proposal ala Soon-Shiong.
A Bromancer / opinionista-s Side by Side... "unless they are presented side-by-side with another opinion piece representing the ‘opposing view,'....
with DP as the other side!
"Earlier this month, Soon-Shiong revealed that he has been working “behind the scenes” to create a “bias meter” for every article published by the newspaper.
[Biased Balanced! Scott Jennings appointed by Soon to board...
"Dismissal of United States Attorneys controversy
"Jennings was involved in the dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy in early 2007 testifying on August 2, 2007, before the Senate Judiciary Committee. He invoked executive privilege and refused to answer most questions, claiming the president George W. Bush had ordered his non-compliance.[22] Democrats on the committee contested the legitimacy of the privilege assertion, Patrick Leahycalling it, "...a bogus claim."[22] E-mails published subsequently confirmed that Jennings was directly involved in the controversial firing of New Mexico US Attorney David Iglesias, Jennings writing in one e-mail to a White House staffer, "Iglesias has done nothing," and to another, "We are getting killed out there," adding that the White House "move forward with getting rid of the NM USATTY.".[23]
"White House and RNC email accounts
...
"Los Angeles Times
"Jennings was named a Los Angeles Times contributing columnist in the fall of 2019. His initial column for the paper was called "Attitude and Gratitude: Why Republicans Stick with Trump",[39] and was published shortly after Trump had been impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Jennings ]
...
“instituted a new policy that prohibits editorials containing criticism of the president-elect unless they are presented side-by-side with another opinion piece representing the ‘opposing view,'” Darcy wrote in his newsletter.
“This new restriction, which appears to apply only to matters involving Trump and not to other officials or issues, has effectively killed or indefinitely delayed multiple editorials that have been written and edited but remain unpublished,” according to the memo....
https://news.yahoo.com/news/la-times-owner-patrick-soon-142410629.html
And this is the calm before the storm.
And the affects...
"Big brother: the effects of surveillance on fundamental aspects of social vision"
...
"These findings show that being watched impacts not only consciously controlled behaviours but also unconscious, involuntary visual processing. Our results have implications concerning the impacts of surveillance on basic human cognition as well as public mental health."
https://academic.oup.com/nc/article/2024/1/niae039/7920510?login=false
Hi Dorothy,
ReplyDeleteThe Bromancer may like to think that the Book of Genesis “is the most consequential book in human history.” But he certainly can’t say it’s the most original.
The first human woman disobeying orders and so bringing evil to the world, not Eve but the Greek’s Pandora.
https://www.thecollector.com/pandora-plato-first-woman/
Apples causing problems, the Greeks were there first again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_of_Discord
Floods, the construction of an Ark and the salvation of animals. The Mesopotamian Gilgamesh was way ahead of Noah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth
There's just nothing new under the sun, is there.
DeleteTo all Happy New year and lets hope that the world will be a better place in 2025. I have never read the bible but given a catechism by my aunty who was a devout catholic being Irish if she was alive today what would she think of Ireland and how they have rooted out the dominance of Catholicism from the Irish society.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteadVance'd.
Here is a crisisie sickening thought. Richard the 3rd, eat your heart out.
Uncle Elon has all the tools, science and contacts to make The Manchurian Musk Candidate move from fiction to reality.
Call it adVanc'd.
Bourne is so passé.
The Koolaid is so low tech.
It's best - for MY country.
Polish for your 2025 boot Dorothy. Stick it to em.
And please thank Mrs DP for putting up with us.
And The Matrix.
Delete"SCIENTISTS SUGGEST HARVESTING BLOOD FROM MARS COLONISTS TO CONSTRUCT FUTURE CITY"
https://futurism.com/the-byte/harvesting-blood-mars-colonists-construct
Heam. On Mars.
I read it as Loonpond. Gulp!
Delete"Amid his first foray into American government, Musk is now influence-peddling in Europe too — and he's willing to cut off his nose to spite his face on both sides of the pond if it achieves his regressive political endgame."
ELON MUSK ENDORSES NAZI-LINKED GERMAN PARTY, EVEN THOUGH IT OPPOSED TESLA’S GIGAFACTORY
https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-endorses-afd-tesla