tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post6831796053375721377..comments2024-03-29T22:18:45.103+11:00Comments on loon pond: In which the pond enjoys some quality time with the Jensenists, come in from the wilderness ...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-31538537377334527352016-08-05T05:59:25.321+10:002016-08-05T05:59:25.321+10:00And there is something in the human being that see...<i><a href="http://spectator.com.au/2016/07/i-dont-believe-in-no-religion/" rel="nofollow">And</a> there is <a href="http://xroads.virginia.edu/~drbr/geertz.html" rel="nofollow">something</a> in the human being that seeks out these bindings in the things that transcend us.</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-7276811969192478562016-08-04T23:59:26.320+10:002016-08-04T23:59:26.320+10:00Well, as a atheist, I suppose I shouldn't be t...Well, as a atheist, I suppose I shouldn't be telling Michael Jensen which box to tick, but as a "cultural Catholic" (<i>you can check out any time you want, but you can never leave...</i>), I can tell him that that is an Adriano Zumbo V8 layer cake of crap. There is nothing in the Nicene creed that is not a true, exact and complete statement of Catholic faith. If there is anything in there you can't sign up to then whatever you are, you aren't Catholic. While it is utter nonsense, it is very carefully considered and well-articulated nonsense.<br /><br />Of course, Michael Jensen is an Anglican, and I suppose things are different when you belong to the church for all seasons. At times like this, I find a bit of Jay and Lynn can help - Jim is considering whether to appoint a Modernist or a Disestablishmentarian to a vacant bishopric:<br /><br /><i>Hacker: Humphrey, what's a Modernist in the Church of England?<br />Sir Humphrey: Ah, well, the word "Modernist" is code for non-believer.<br />Hacker: You mean an atheist?<br />Sir Humphrey: No, Prime Minister. An atheist clergyman couldn't continue to draw his stipend. So, when they stop believing in God, they call themselves "Modernists".<br />Hacker: How could the Church of England suggest an atheist as Bishop of Bury St Edmunds?<br />Sir Humphrey: Well, very easily. The Church of England is primarily a social organisation, not a religious one.<br />...<br />Hacker: ...One of them wants to get God out of the Church of England and the other one wants to get the Queen out.<br />Sir Humphrey: The Queen is inseparable from the Church of England.<br />Hacker: Is she? What about God?<br />Sir Humphrey: I think He's what's called an optional extra.</i><br /><br />Ahhh, got it now...FrankDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-86873743153225067792016-08-04T16:05:51.462+10:002016-08-04T16:05:51.462+10:00Gwan, DW, at least they didn't threaten to cru...Gwan, DW, at least they didn't threaten to crucify him for heresy. Though they just might if there's a next time.GrueBleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-53800816522451750432016-08-04T16:03:23.694+10:002016-08-04T16:03:23.694+10:00Now that is indeed a very deep and meaningful ques...Now that is indeed a very deep and meaningful question, Anony ... well, I think it might be. Do you have a deep and meaningful answer ??GrueBleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-18225321641391335032016-08-04T12:39:22.320+10:002016-08-04T12:39:22.320+10:00Hi Dorothy,
Oops! Looks like Graham Lloyd over at...Hi Dorothy,<br /><br />Oops! Looks like Graham Lloyd over at The Oz made the mistake of actually writing a factual article on Climate Change. <br /><br />https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/08/03/pitchforks-graeme-lloyd/<br /><br />The rabid readership unused to such truthful fare have not reacted well...<br /><br />DWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-68009438689014214802016-08-04T10:32:44.904+10:002016-08-04T10:32:44.904+10:00How might a Gadarene-type entity ingressively misp...How might a Gadarene-type entity ingressively mispeak the Nicene Creed to shock and awe susceptible believers who are acculturated within the Christian faith and who lack first-hand knowledge of all the things which that document purports to relate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-62123363996476179532016-08-04T08:51:40.330+10:002016-08-04T08:51:40.330+10:00Now, now DP, "very unique" isn't spe...Now, now DP, "very unique" isn't specifically Binglese, it's basically modern journalistic argot. Argot, as you know, being "...a language primarily developed to disguise conversation, originally because of a criminal enterprise, though the term is also used loosely to refer to informal jargon." It is no surprise that journos speak a "criminalistic jargon", is it ?<br /><br />However, I confess to a furtive appreciation for "very unique", mainly via its opposite. For instance, every human being is, of course, unique, but they are most decidedly not "very unique". In fact, more "barely" than "very".<br /><br />Further, the Jensenists may "love it when atheists try to tell us how to define a Christian!" but no more so than how we agnostic proto-atheists love it when a Jensen tries to tell us how to define an atheist.<br /><br />As to the Nicene Creed, well, my poor old memory tells me of a long ago story of an Anglican minister (may even have been a "bishop") who was sent as a missionary to Africa to preach to the benighted. Only to, in fact, be persuaded by them that Jesus Christ is a myth. He was subsequently "sacked" by the Church authorities. However, he then took the authorities to secular court charging them with unfair dismissal ... and he won and was reinstated. So, what would the Rev Jensen say about him ? Which category should he tick ?<br /><br />[And I wish I could persuade Google to find me the reference so I could know I wasn't just a daydream believer too. But I'll keep trying]GrueBleennoreply@blogger.com