tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post4514553341763363958..comments2024-03-29T10:53:28.617+11:00Comments on loon pond: In which the reptiles get into the pond's good book ...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-28515284549353347892018-02-28T13:04:48.481+11:002018-02-28T13:04:48.481+11:00A pleasure, DP. Though Tyndale is a bit of a reli...A pleasure, DP. Though Tyndale is a bit of a religious nut (well, just about everybody was back then - in Europe, anyway) I'm fan enough to think he's been much under-acknowledged and much under-rated (and John Wycliffe also) and the Catholic Church has been much under-criminalised.<br /><br />And also that the self-serving motivation of King James is under-appreciated. Yes, there was some element of 'fidei defensor' (much beloved of Henry VIII), but I've always considered his main aim was to defend his 'divine right' as king, and that's how the KJV got commissioned and we kinda 'lost' all those radical and highly instructive Geneva margin notes, postils and annotations.GrueBleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-81446921237998706052018-02-28T08:58:30.972+11:002018-02-28T08:58:30.972+11:00The pond instantly regretted not mentioning the fi...The pond instantly regretted not mentioning the filching from Tyndale and his fate, so thanks for the reminder GBdorothy parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00816807935021738560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-14090191044199327702018-02-27T19:29:39.311+11:002018-02-27T19:29:39.311+11:00We live in time of relentless babble (babel). Coun...We live in time of relentless babble (babel). Countless trillions of words are loaded on to various electronic devices such as Iphones and computers every day.<br />There are countless websites and blogs in computer cyber-space.<br /><br />So somehow in the midst of all of that babble/babel, being biblical literate is going to make a positive or significant difference - LOL.<br /><br />Meanwhile how many biblically literate people voted for the Insane Clown President? Especially influential "conservative" christian leaders who pretended that the orange monster was "god's" gift to Amerika.<br />Many biblically literate zomboids here in the land of Oz also are more than enthusiastic about the orange haired monster too - especially the Quadrant/Spectator loons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-4634569933567195842018-02-27T17:43:07.209+11:002018-02-27T17:43:07.209+11:00Not quite awaiting his maker just yet, perhaps JS....Not quite awaiting his maker just yet, perhaps JS.<br /><br />See: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/rupert-murdoch-hospitalized-with-serious-back-injuryGrueBleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-82238625672383917522018-02-27T17:10:55.900+11:002018-02-27T17:10:55.900+11:00Especially the bit where Brian gets to go for a ri...Especially the bit where Brian gets to go for a ride in one of the two alien fighter space craft. If you haven't read your Ezekiel, that would be very hard to understand. Yes, Ezekiel is OT, but a little bit of flexibility never hurts.GrueBleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-68851013116304163632018-02-27T15:36:49.653+11:002018-02-27T15:36:49.653+11:00In my experience, a reasonable knowledge of the Ne...In my experience, a reasonable knowledge of the New Testament contributes to a much more enjoyable view of The Life Of Brian, and surely that is important!Russnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-29497732087142496902018-02-27T14:42:47.891+11:002018-02-27T14:42:47.891+11:00Some of it is readable: try Ecclesiastes and Revel...Some of it is readable: try Ecclesiastes and Revelation.GrueBleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-89056055060458396362018-02-27T14:38:34.777+11:002018-02-27T14:38:34.777+11:00Hmmm, yes well there's bibles, and there's...Hmmm, yes well there's bibles, and there's bibles and there's translators and there's renderers.<br /><br />Though about 90% based on the original translation by William Tyndale - who was of course kidnapped and murdered by the authorities of the Roman Church for having the appalling effrontery to produce a vernacular Bible iin English - the Geneva Bible was very popular for extensive marginal notes and references so it became the first English "Study Bible". Such that even Will the Shakespeare was credited with <b>quoting hundreds of times in his plays from the Geneva Bible</b>.<br /><br />But then, I've never heard anybody claim they can't understand Shakespeare because they never read the Bible. Have you ?<br /><br />Anyway, amongst those marginal notes were some that were just a tad cynical about the 'Divine Right of Kings' so a large part of James I's motivation was to get a popular bible that was entirely free of revolutionary annotations. And he did.<br /><br />Ref: http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/GrueBleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-9990991901451512222018-02-27T13:19:52.607+11:002018-02-27T13:19:52.607+11:00Quite right, DP. As they say in the classics, '...Quite right, DP. As they say in the classics, 'You think you've read some boring books, let me read you The Bible...' It's hard to believe that any of these proselytisers have read it all,it takes superhuman strength. Similarly for Shakespeare - GBS and Pepys were right about him -no-one could read the first few scenes of Othello without laughing. And Milton! Please!<br />Our world is different from the Biblical world, and all that you learn from reading their writings is that they were complete nutters.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00808416744757194189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-69878882403082248652018-02-27T11:24:22.653+11:002018-02-27T11:24:22.653+11:00Indeed, indeed, it's not about religion by ste...Indeed, indeed, it's not about religion by stealth, but cultural learnings of Judaeo-Christian Europe for make benefit glorious nation of Australia; for who could but value exposure to wisdom such as "and if a chameleon fall into your pot, it shall be unclean until the e'en"? <br /><br />Donners, being a well-rounded reader, would also agree that other classics like Animal Farm can't be understood without first understanding the Communist Manifesto, so that should also be on the curriculum? <br /><br />I've managed to grok much renaissance art without having read Vasari's "Lives of the Saints". OTOH, I've read (most of) the Bible, but somehow survived without reading any of his classics (Bunyan, really?) other than Canterbury Tales - perhaps Donners could remind me of the bit of the Bible I should read to understand the Miller's Tale:<br /><i>"Derk was the nyght as pich, or as a cole,<br />And at the wyndow out she putte hir hole,<br />And Absolon, hym fil no bet ne wers,<br />But with his mouth he kiste hir naked ers<br />Ful savorly, er he were war of this.<br />Abak he stirte, and thoughte it was amys,<br />For wel he wiste a womman hath no berd.<br />He felte a thyng al rough and long yherd"</i><br />?FrankDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1462488453822156883.post-78057108343335783942018-02-27T09:17:38.143+11:002018-02-27T09:17:38.143+11:00Rumour in the twittershere that Rupert is confined...Rumour in the twittershere that Rupert is confined to bed and waiting his maker hence lotsa God stuff as of late dp? 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